On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:27:37PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Remember, that I'm also part of the upstream team of pm-utils ;-)
> The simple reason, why I didn't commit the patch upstream is, that the 
> way it is implemented is a bit "hackish".

I can kind of see what you are saying,  but surely most pm-utils users
will experience it as a result of being packaged in their distro?

> You have to make a distinction between s2ram (suspend-to-ram) and s2disk 
> (suspend-to-disk) here.

That's true, I haven't discussed s2disk at all. I'm really not sure
where suspend-to-disk is going. I've heard some kernel devs describe it
as "fundamentally broken", but what we've got at the moment "works", so
I haven't looked into it more.

> Short answer is, that I won't change the current behaviour.
> 
> If someone installs uswusp, it can be safely expected, that uswsusp 
> should be used, that's why this patch was added (it's the same 
> assumption as in Debian system services, like apache, are automatically 
> activated and started on boot upon installation)
> The simplest way actually to not use uswsusp, is to uninstall it.
> May I ask, why you have uswsusp installed if you don't want to use it?

You have it in Recommends: so almost everyone installing pm-utils will
get uswsusp as a result! Would you at least consider demoting it to
Suggests:? That means people who have explicitly installed it, as per
your argument, will end up using it, but those who don't will get the
pm-utils behaving as they might expect (and in my case at least, suspend
that works :))? This would seem to be a good compromise.


-- 
Jon Dowland



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