On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:10 PM, Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jörg Sommer wrote:
>> Package: manpages
>> Version: 2.80-1
>> Severity: normal
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> % LC_ALL=C man ascii G 047 | awk '{print $4;}' | hexdump
>> 0000000 270a
>> ^^
>>
>> % LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 man ascii G 047 | awk '{print $4;}' | hexdump
>> 0000000 c2b4 0a00
>> ^^^^
>>
>> I think you must tell roff that you really mean the character 0x27.
>
> Arjan Opmeer wrote:
>>
>> Looking at the man page I see that the escaped version of some characters
>> are used.
>>
>> \e for \ (which won't work when the escape character is redefined)
>> \&_ for _ what is that non-printable, zero width character doing there?
>> \` for ` but the escaped version maps to the grave accent
>> \' for ' but the escaped version maps to the acute accent
>> \- for - why? we want the real minus character, not some hyphen
>>
>> As UTF8 and all the ISO-8859-x fonts have the standard ASCII character set
>> at the beginning, why not use the real ASCII characters in this man page?
>> After all, it is about the ASCII set now how you could pretty format that on
>> some output device.
>
> I have to admit that I'm lost here.
I don't feel very confident of all of the details myself.
Better loop Stuart in on this one. I think he understands groff
better than me and Joey, and he and I have been visiting this issue
recently.
Stuart, the Debian report is here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=485990
Everyone else, note also this somewhat related change in the 3.00 change log,
http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/changelog.html#release_3.00
==
Various pages
mtk, after a note from Stuart Brady
Using /'x'/ to denote a character (string) renders poorly in
UTF-8, where the two ' characters render as closing single
quotes. On the other hand, using /`x'/ renders nicely on UTF-8,
where proper opening and closing single quotes are produced by
groff(1), but looks ugly when rendered in ASCII. Using the
sequence /\aqx\aq/ produces a reasonable rendering ('\aq'
is a vertical "apostrophe quote") in both UTF-8 and ASCII.
So that change is made in a number of pages.
See also http://www.cl.cal.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html.
==
And also the following mail thread:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.printing.groff.general/7495/
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