On Fri,25.Jul.08, 19:39:32, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Thu,24.Jul.08, 15:59:49, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> > >> I'd like to propose a special mailing list for topics that are off
> > >> topic elsewhere. 
> > >
> > > There are already 100, or more, mailing lists specified on Debian
> > > Mailing Lists. Some of them are pretty dead.
> > >
> > > What would adding yet another list, which is "offtopic" to Debian,
> > > help here?
> > 
> > IMO it strengthens the community.
> > 
> > >> A separate OT list fragments d-u, pointlessly. If OT is your
> > >> problem, learn to use your mail tools instead.
> > >
> > > Exactly.
> > 
> > I want to have a separate list because I want *more* not less
> > offtopic. I also understand that too much OT on d-u can hurt the
> > usefulness of the list, hence the proposal for an offtopic list.
> 
> What sort of things would even be discussed on such a list?
> 
> Almost any topic related to Debian already has its own list or a list
> that is close enough to stand in for it; -curiosa covers almost
> everything that is merely tangentally associated with Debian.
 
Maybe I interpret the description of -curiosa differently.

,----
| Funny thing from and with the project, funny quotes, discussions irc 
| communication and fortune cookies. Some kind of (de.)alt.netdigest for 
| Debian-related stuff.
`----

It's still related to Debian and not suitable to discuss Sponge Bob, 
growing broccoli or if color should be spelled with or without 'u'.

> Things that aren't associated with Debian at all should be discussed
> using lists, forums or similar which are hosted elsewhere where
> whatever is being discussed is actually on topic.
> 
> The problems with people being off topic on debian-user aren't going
> to be resolved by the creation of another list, as discussion lists
> already exist in the great wide world where most any topic is actually
> on-topic. If people are being off topic on debian-user, they need to
> be informed of fora where their discussion is actually on topic, and
> people need to stop replying.[1]
> 
> 
> Don Armstrong
> 
> 1: It's not like this sort of thing doesn't happen in almost any
> forum; in most Debian lists it happens, people are informed, and it's
> not much of a problem.

Again, I think this could *strengthen the community*. It's not about the 
topic (because it has been seen that the topics can cover just about 
everything), but about the people. IMO there is room for a list where 
*Debian users* can talk about things totally unrelated to Debian, 
without bothering the normal traffic on topic lists.

Regards,
Andrei
-- 
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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