Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 09 2008, Frank Küster wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Debian Bug Tracking System) wrote:
>
>>>         There is not point keeping this report open
>
>> There is.
>
>         Err, I don't see the point.
>
>>>; the official kernel
>>>  team produces headers that do not work with kernel-package.
>>
>> Then this is a bug in kernel-package.
>
>         Heck no. If the official kernels, which do not use
>  kernel-package, produce header packages that are not usable with a
>  package that predates their effort, how is it a bug in kernel-package? 

This is how I argue:

- I want to use a Debian kernel, and I will recommend that to any newbie,
  because AFAIK the upstream kernel developers do just that: Rely on
  distributions to provide stable kernels.

- I want to use add-on modules not included in the kernel, and others
  will want the same.

- I was looking for programs that would allow me to create modules "the
  Debian way". kernel-package advertises itself as

A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.

  It doesn't mention modules in the long description, but it does so in
  the installed documentation. 

- I find out that it is not possible to build add-on modules for Debian
  kernels with kernel-package.

- I think that it would be useful for any kernel-related package on
  Debian to work with Debian kernels and the headers provided by
  Debian. 

  The fact that kernel-package does not do so is a bug, severity
  wishlist if you like.

  The fact that it does not document this is a bug of at least normal
  severity IMO.

Can't you follow that reasoning?  Where am I wrong?


>> You're free to decide that you won't fix it, and not even document the
>> fact. But it is still a bug, and I hope that you are at least willing
>> to fix the clone, i.e. the missing documentation. If you tell me that
>> you are, I'll be happy to provide a patch.
>
>         I don't see why I have to report that a third party produced
>  header package is not compatible with kernel-package.

Err, you call an official Debian kernel header package "third party"
when you are dealing with packaging software for Debian? That sounds
wrong to me.


>         I'll remove hints from the documentation that imply that there
>  could be link to the official kernels.

That's not the problem. If I install a Debian package, the usual
expectation is that it is integrated with Debian. The fact that it is
not needs special documentation. 

If you're assuming that the fact that a Debian package is actually
integrated with Debian needs special documentation (which should be
removed if this is not the case), then I think you're wrong.


Or I am still misunderstanding something about the way kernels are
organized in Debian. But this would just mean that the documentation is
missing elsewhere - so there is still a bug somewhere.

Regards, Frank
-- 
Frank Küster
Debian Developer (TeXLive)
ADFC Miltenberg
B90/Grüne KV Miltenberg



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