On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Jon Smirl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Theodore Tso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Solving this problem for desktop users is harder; probably the best
> > thing you can do is to throw up "shame" dialog box telling them that
> > they did Something Wrong, and while they may have gotten lucky this
> > time, that next time they should close all programs using the USB
> > storage device, and then right-click on the mounted disk icon and
> > select "eject".  That's what Windows does, and IIRC, what Mac OS X
> > does; there really isn't much else that can be done.
>
> Can we do something about atime on removable media? It is
> non-intuitive to most users that sticking a drive in and copying a
> couple files off from it is going to cause writes to the device. A
> normal user would think that this is read-only access and it is ok to
> yank the drive.  I've burnt myself several times from this.
>
> Another thing that gets normal users is yanking out a drive that was
> definitely idle and then not having the icon for the drive disappear
> on the desktop.
>
> Maybe change distro mount defaults for removable media to noatime? And
> add an event when the drive is yanked with no pending writes to tell
> the desktop the drive is gone?
>
> Of course yanking with writes pending should generate a big error box.
> Can it ask the user to reinsert the drive and pick up where it left
> off?
>

Might be a little too late and the files are already missing..

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