Package: apticron
Version: 1.1.26
Severity: normal

First some reminder: 

1) I see this package has been updated with different package
description at this stage of release.  The content you added is best
suited in README.Debian. This may caused translation mismatch issue for
the package description.

2) To get this released for lenny, you need to write to
[email protected] with "please unblock ..." mail with
required information.

Now to the bug report.

I think this package should describe its value clearly to the user for
the current APT system.  Let's look into situation.

It seems to me, this apticron package is a quick fix to the current apt
feature which seems to lack capability to send mail for prompting users
to install packages when it is configured to do download only.

Please note, APT package since 0.5.28 Ubuntu hoary and 0.5.29 Debian
unstable (Sat, 13 Nov 2004) has its own script /etc/cron.daily/apt,
which can do:
 * fancy auto-clean with rule
 * check and download upgradable packages automatically
 * automatic unattended upgrade 
    + need to install unattended-upgrades package
    + aimed for security upgrade and have its blacklist capability
    + mail capability (The extent of this, i do not know for sure?)

These can be enabled via apt configuration variables (usually stored in
/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02backup and 50unattended-upgrades).

Since this is enhancement script to apt, this should clearly document
what part of apt this package will enhance etc.  Also recommending to
install cron-apt without mentioning apt's own capability is not kind to
the user.  We as users wonder why?  When it is written in package
description, this impact is big.

Let's compare these:

                   apt's cron script             cron-apt script

enable by          adding parameter              manually installing to cron

download only      shell script(main)            shell script

auto upgrade       python script                 shell script
                   complicated checks            simple apt-get -y upgrade
                   
Except for cron-apt script depending on python for auto-upgrade, I see
no reason to recommend it over apt.  At least both methods should be
mentioned.

Although I have no relation with Ubuntu, considering Ubuntu uses this
apt's feature extensively, I think this is quite stable part of code.

I am not very familiar with the whole picture.  So I think further study
might be needed to be correct.

I hope to see more balanced documentation for what to do in
README.Debian might be useful to everyone.

(Also, adding patch to apt itself to do what apticron does might benefit
more people.)

Osamu

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (800, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages apticron depends on:
ii  apt                0.7.20.1              Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  apt-listchanges    2.83                  package change history notificatio
ii  bsd-mailx [mailx]  8.1.2-0.20081101cvs-2 A simple mail user agent
ii  debconf [debconf-2 1.5.24                Debian configuration management sy
ii  iproute            20080725-2            networking and traffic control too
ii  mailx              1:20081101-2          Transitional package for mailx ren

apticron recommends no packages.

apticron suggests no packages.



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