On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:02:16PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>  I wonder how many people really are on non-GNU systems and actually are
> expecting this different behavior, and since when it is around. I
> currently can't really find out when it was introduced, at least 1.5.13
> had still the old documentation, the documentation was adjusted for
> 1.5.15, so the "feature" change would be probably be around since late
> 2006/early 2007.
> 

Hi Rhonda,
sorry for the late reply but I was a bit busy during last month; now the problem
here is if we should roll back the upstream change or not, they will surely go
ahead with their change because it is supporting both GNU and non-GNU systems. I
know that it breaks an existing behavior but we didn't get many complaints so
far, apart from three bug reports (including this one).

As far as I understood, the patch was also covering Solaris, I know that we
don't support Solaris but we should make sure that an user of that operating
system or of any other GNU/non-GNU operating system could use the same version 
of mutt (1.5.19 in this case) w/out having different output or different 
options per
distribution; what I care most is the user experience with this program and if
we change the CLI options and stray from upstream that would mean that users
from other distro will get a different experience once they start using Debian.

Unfortunately, and this it really bad, we don't have numbers, so from my side
this could be just a discussion and I can only try explain my opinion but I 
cannot
quantify how many users are affected, how many are angry because we broke their
scripts (actually, not "we", but "they" :-) ) and so on.

I'd like to keep this behavior of mutt, if we do so I'm sure that we have to add
a warning for people the mutt package (for example when squeeze goes out); I'm
just wondering if my explanation makes sense to you or if you think that we
should roll back their change.

Thanks a lot for the discussion, it is being really helpful.

Cheers
Antonio



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