Hi,
* [email protected] <[email protected]> [2009-10-09 14:03]:
> >What is matchbox keyboard? Do you have this with other applications as well? 
> 
> matchbox-keyboard is an app that displays a keyboard and produces the 
> respective 'keystroke' for other applications when you click on a key.
> 
> think of a phone/pda with a touchscreen display but no keyboard => 
> matchbox-keyboard can be used with a stylus for keyboard input.

Ok

> i tried the same with xclock (changing the application name in the rc.xml 
> from 
> "" to "xclock") with the following result:
> - the maximized (x and y) window still uses the whole screen except for the 
> panel, especially it's still partly covered by xclock. that's different in 
> that 
> it does not use just the lower half of the screen.
> - there's still the gap at the bottom.

I just installed matchbox-keyboard. How did you maximize it anyway? It doesn't 
have any focus. And resizing it by hand results in some funny effects.
I still don't get your problem, can you please try to rephrase what happens 
and what would you expect to happen?

"if a window is 'maximized', it won't draw over the panel, but if 
matchbox-keyboard is started, the window gets resized"

Which window is meant here by "the window"?

maximize = maximize until you hit any panels and do not steal focus
fullscreen = completely maximize over panels and steal focus

> >If the application is messed-up (in this case matchbox keyboard) openbox can 
> >hardly do anything against that.
> 
> i tried matchbox-keyboard with a few wms. this behaviour at least occured 
> only 
> with openbox.
> what makes it especially strange for me is that the existence of one window 
> (matchbox-keyboard) makes the other (xy maximized) window use just the lower 
> half of the screen. i don't want to claim that this can not actually be 
> caused 
> by some error in matchbox-keyboard, it just seems very counterintuitive to me 
> (plus this happens only with openbox).

Please tell me exactly the steps to reproduce, key strokes and stuff, I have 
no idea what you're talking about.

> i also don't want to claim that the problem can't be a lack of understanding 
> of 
> the configuration by me. but then the correct configuration (or the error in 
> the config) is at least not obvious (to me, or to an average user so to speak 
> :)
> 
> maybe it helps to explain what i'm trying to achieve:
> - a panel at the top of the screen.

I have that

> - the matchbox-keyboard app is started and stopped as needed. if it is 
> running, 
> it should be displayed at the bottom of the screen.

That's not to the windowmanager to decide, at least not alone.

> - any other windows are to use the space between the panel and the 
> matchbox-keyboard (if it is running) or the whole space except for the panel 
> (if matchbox-keyboard is not running).

So matchbox has to behave like a panel which it obviously is not doing.
I gave the X properties of that to upstream asking if it's an application bug.
I expect it to be but to be honest I don't know.

Cheers
Nico
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