Hello,

Don't get me wrong with this bug. I am thankful for your packaging for
Debian. It's just that I (we?) want to avoid upset users, that may
discover that their system isn't as secure as they thought.

On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 11:20 +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote:
> Thanks for your report!
> 
> * Frank Lin PIAT <fp...@klabs.be>, 2009-12-17, 09:59:
> >I am seriously concerned by the fake sense of security that such tool
> >provides (I must say that some other pam modules are scarry).
> >
> >For instance, using vlock and libpam-alreadyloggedin on the same machine
> >provides the same level of security as a blank password, if not less.
> 
> Of course, if you take two arbitrary tools, you can always combine them 
> in a nonsensical way.

Installing any two arbitrary tools, with their default settings, should
never expose the system.

(Let me know if you know any, I'll take care of filing bugs.)

>  Why should I care particularly about vlock?

This is not specific to vlock. It's just the one at top of my mind.

It is common for documentations to warn about security risk.

> I thought that Unix software is supposed to assume that users know what 
> they do.

We aren't in the 70s~90s anymore, Debian does target end-users.


> >Please, add appropriate warning to this package description and README.
> 
> Feel free to propose wording, but I really think the current description 
> clearly describes what this software do.

Maybe something like:
 "Security note: The interaction with other programs that leaves
  console sessions active should be considered seriously, this
  especially applies to console screen-saver, like vlock."

I tried to write it in a way which isn't too scary.
You probably want to improve my suggestion, since you probably have a
better understanding of the security implication of this tool than I do.

> >BTW, It is recommended to submit an ITP bug before uploading a new
> >package in the archive, so other DDs can provide feed-back.
> 
> Why do you think I didn't submit one?

I probably made a typo when I searched my debian-devel folder, sorry for
the noise.

Thanks,

Franklin




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