Package: manpages-de Version: 0.5-4.2 Severity: important Tags: l10n Hello, German man pages are outdated. I just stumbled (at work) over the option "-P" in the German man page for cp. It says "same as --parents, soon to be changed into --no-dereference to comply with POSIX".
Well the english man page sure says:
-P, --no-dereference
Looking at the bugs this is not the only case of outdateness and I
guess comparing some "random" man pages with their English original
will yield other outdated translations.
While this in itself might be minor, two issues cause the importance:
a) There is not even a warning in the man page that it could be
outdated and thus
b) your package "fails" policy
* Localized man pages should either be kept up-to-date with the
original version or warn that they're not up-to-date, either with
warning text or by showing missing or changed portions in the
original language. [12.1]
(Of course, policy change was made because users suffer from this,
they don't find a required option or use an incorrect option and
experience obsure bugs and might eventually give up or become rather
frustrated).
To rectify the situation, the following course of action could be used:
1) Patch *all* man pages such that they have the followin or a
simmilar message at the top (at the bottom of ÃBERSICHT or the top
of BESCHREIBUNG):
Diese Handbucheite ist u.U. veraltet. Im Zweifelsfall ziehen Sie
die englischsprachige Handbuchseite zu Rate, indem Sie
LC_ALL=C man cp
eingeben.
2) Convert all man pages (step by step, I know 186 pages are a lot) to
a format, which replaces untranslated text by the original english
one and does not display outdated translated text.
A possible candidate is po4a, but you might check with upstream for
that.
I suggest contacting the maintainer of po4a or asking on
debian-i18n so that scripts might help you add in the previous
translation, so ideally you would "only" need to shuffle around
content. Still, if I randomly take 20 minutes per page for
converting and basic sanity checking, I still end up at more than
one week of work (full time). So this process probably should be
spread out over time.
3) Over time, update all man pages. You might want to aks on
debian-l10n-german for help (but I guess upstream could also
provide some help).
-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.3
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APT policy: (500, 'stable')
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Kernel: Linux 2.6.27.10-grsec-cz03
Locale: lang=de...@euro, lc_ctype=de...@euro (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL
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