* Betr.: " Bug#597446: re-reporting bug in build dependencies of
  tryton-client" (Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:48:48 +0100):

Hi Luke,

I am stepping in just to give twice input and to cool down the situation. In
fact your contribution is much appreciated, so thank you for reporting.

> the build dependencies unnecessarily specify a completely unnecessarily
> harsh and restrictive version  of python-support, which is completely
> unnecessary and terminates the possibility of installation of 
> tryton-client unless performing a manual dpkg-buildpackage.
> 
> the previous answer given "lenny is too old: closing i.e. fuck off" is 
> not really the right answer.

Back reading I see, that only you make (extensive) use of the f*** word.
 
> how the _fuck_ is anyone supposed to ermmm actually like, y'know...
> _test_ software when you tell them to "fuck off" just because their
> system is in a half-way-house setup between lenny and testing, and
> there's critical software which CANNOT be removed because they're
> USING it, eh?

Again: it is appreciated a lot, if you are testing software. But if you are
running packages for a different distribution, it is up to you to know and
handle the consequences.

> so please do try not to be a complete donut and close bugreports
> "just to get rid of them", ok?
> 
> whilst i am perfectly capable of running "dpkg-buildpackage", the
> average user is not.
> 
> if i didn't give a flying fuck about debian i wouldn't have raised the
> fucking bugreport, would i??
> 
> so _come_ on - you can do much better than that: either provide a
> satisfactory explanation or change this:

I am trying to explain by citing once more:

- the dependency "python-support" >= 0.9 is required in order 
to have ensured we have --install-layout=deb et all working.
- your problem is that dh_pysupport adds something you don't want in
python:Depends. please take it up with the python-support maintainers,
nothing we can do about it here.
 
> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7), python, python-setuptools, python-support
> 
> and btw - if you actually bothered to fucking well check, you'd see that
> the dependencies in the "default" build as supplied state:
> 
> Depends: python (<< 2.7), python (>= 2.5), python-support (>= 0.90.0), 
> python-dateutil, python-gtk2, python-simplejson, python-pkg-resources, 
> librsvg2-2
> 
> but i ACTUALLY have, if you actually fucking bothered to _look_:
> python-support 1.0.9
> 
> did you actually _read_ the report???
> 
> i don't believe you did, did you?
> 
> so i don't _have_ version 0.8.4lenny2 installed, do i?
> 
> so that means that there might actually be something here that needs
> investigation, yes?

For sure. As pointed out, it would be very kind to assign this issue to package
python-support, as it is IMHO not an issue of the Tryton packages.
 
> to get to the bottom of it without wasting my time by closing bugreports
> without checking what's really going on, yes?
> 
> that would be great, and would actually benefit debian and debian users, 
> yes?
> 
> fantastic.

Given the explanations above, can we agree to close this issue and that you
clear the problem, if any, with the python-support maintainers?

Cheers,
Mathias


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