Hello,

On penktadienis 21 Sausis 2011 03:58:58 Gordon Haverland wrote:
> On January 20, 2011, Modestas Vainius wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On penktadienis 21 Sausis 2011 02:59:17 Gordon Haverland wrote:
> > > On January 20, 2011, you wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > 
> > > > On penktadienis 21 Sausis 2011 00:30:35 Gordon Haverland
> 
> wrote:
> > > > > Running amarok from the command line, with or without
> > > > > --debug doesn't seem to offer much.  I did run it under
> > > > > strace, and an edited version of the strace is below.
> > > > 
> > > > Try running
> > > > 
> > > > $ kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
> > > > 
> > > > and start amarok again.
> > > 
> > > I do not have amarok source here.  Is building amarok from
> > > source necessary to track this down?  (I do have disk space,
> > > but I have never built any component of KDE from source
> > > before.)
> > 
> > That command has nothing to do with building from source. It
> > expands as K-BUILD-SYstem-COnfiguration-CAche. Just run it
> > from the X terminal as your user.
> 
> That command looks like it is involved with building from source.
> 
> In any event, I ran that command from a shell, and then asked KDE
> to load amarok.  It loaded.
> 
> The window which came up was very small, and all squashed into the
> upper left quadrant.

That's probably because you had to kill it in the middle of Update system 
configuration.

> The first time I tried to start a song (from the saved playlist),
> amarok crashed.  Starting amarok again, and trying to start the
> same song seems to have worked (at least, it didn't crash).

Amarok has never been the most solid software in the world. It has always had 
a good share of bugs and Amarok 2 is not an exception.

> I had noticed updates to KDE (unstable) a couple of weeks ago, and
> not installed them.  Lately (1 week ago?) I noticed that updates
> to amarok were available.  Today, amarok stalled, and so I thought
> updating amarok was something to do.  Even though I see a lot of
> KDE has updates available, I did not update anything of KDE other
> than amarok.  (And from dependencies, nothing of kde was updated.)
> 
> But in general, anything having to do with GUIs that I normally
> use (which is mostly KDE), I will not install updates for at least
> 1 week.  In the past, I would install an update, and a few hours
> later there was another update to the same packages.  And this
> behavior seems to be consistent.  I am not looking for exercise in
> typing 'apt-get install ...'.  If somebody doesn't know if their
> updated package works, perhaps there is some method they can use
> which doesn't involve a zillion people downloading and installing
> changes which break packages?
> 
> In general, I am willing to download and install upgrades.  It
> bugs me to heck when I see certain families of packages require 2
> or 3 updates immediatly afterwards.  More often than not, it seems
> to be some simple problem.  Which to me seems to be I have not
> installed this new package on my own machine.
> 
> But, I am not a Debian maintainer, and I don't know what sorts of
> problems come up with updating packages.
> 
> I do wish you the best.  I would much rather spend time figuring
> out how atoms work in structures designed by engineers (which is
> my area of expertice).

Please stay on topic because 2/3 of your mail has nothing to do with this bug 
or even amarok itself. And FWIW, if you don't want bleeding edge updates, use 
stable or at least testing.

-- 
Modestas Vainius <mo...@debian.org>

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