On 08/12/2011 03:15 PM, Andreas Metzler wrote:
On 2011-08-11 Stefan Bühler<light...@stbuehler.de> wrote:
Package: gnutls26
Version: 2.12.7-4
Manual breaks are the wrong way imho - they only protect "known"
dependencies.
We do know the packages in Debian that break. I have checked.
That didn't work well, did it? gkrellm in experimental is broken now.
Looking at the changelog you already had fun adding new Breaks...
And i might add that it is a really closed view of the world.
There are more repositories for debian packages than the official ones;
nobody asks you to support them ofc, but breaking the interface of a
library packages is just wrong.
Imho the gnutls library itself needs a so bump - you should never
change the interface provided by a library packages, and this
includes reomving libs.
The main gnutls API did not break. The fact thhat I ahve shipped two
librariers in a single package does nor change this.
Ok, the main gnutls library doesn't need a so bump, but you need a new
package name. sorry for the wrong wording.
There is also a question of scale. 4 packages in Debian use the
openssl wrapper, 200 use gnutls proper.
ametzler@argenau:~$ grep-available -FDepends -sPackage \
libgnutls26 \ | wc
202 404 4355
Well, shit happens. But the reason still stands: a library *package*
provides an interface, which must be binary compatible with updates.
That is the point of dependencies after all.
On top of that there is no reason for upstream to change the man
gnults soname. It did not break. There is already another new gnutls
stable release (3.0.0), it does break the API/ABI and includes a
soname bump.
Please also note that I have asked on Debian release ages ago whether
handling the transition the way I did was ok, or whether they had
better ideas.
I found now the mail with your question, but there was no answer...
For reference:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2011/03/msg00405.html
I see 3 possibilities:
* Rename libgnutls26 (I often saw people append "c2" when sobump wasn't
an option)
* Provide a backported openssl wrapper in libgnutls26
* Move to the new upstream release (with sobump) asap, and hope that
the broken libgnutls26 doesn't hit testing.
ciao
stefan
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