On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:53:52AM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 08:02:30PM +0000, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 04:13:08PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > There is a circular dependency between libclass-isa-perl, libswitch-perl, > > > perl and perl-modules: > > > > > > libclass-isa-perl :Depends: perl > > > libswitch-perl :Depends: perl, perl-modules > > > perl :Depends: perl-modules (>= 5.14.2-3) > > > perl-modules :Depends: perl (>= 5.14.2-1), libswitch-perl, > > > libclass-isa-perl > > > > > > Complex circular dependencies are known to cause problems during upgrade, > > > so we > > > should try to get rid of them. > > > > Thanks for the heads up. The Depends were added in order to produce > > a smooth upgrade path since squeeze released with a number of packages > > which used those modules (see #629472 for more information). > > > > I will think about if we can do anything to improve this. If nothing > > else these will be removed after wheezy. > > It looks like libclass-isa-perl could be made to depend just on perl-base. > The line > use if $] >= 5.011, 'deprecate'; > would need to be patched out as if.pm is in perl-modules, but the > functionality is not needed for 5.14 anyway. > > However, this is unfortunately not a general solution and doesn't work > for libswitch-perl, which needs Filter::Util::Call from the perl package.
Probably still worth libclass-isa-perl, so I will do this. > I expect this is not the last time this will crop up. AFAICS, whenever > we skip past one Perl major release between Debian stable releases (which > is going to happen again due to differences in our release schedules), > we're going to hit this. > > [ When we don't skip a major Perl release, upstream's deprecation schedule > works for us and the perl package can just Recommend the newly split > modules instead of depending on them, avoiding the circular dependency. ] > > I see three options for the general case: > > - stick with the circular dependency for one release. This is still > allowed by the policy after all; is there any evidence of real problems? > > - extend the deprecation period to match Debian release schedule: in > this case, bundle Class::ISA and Switch in the perl 5.14 packages even > though upstream doesn't. This would mean multiple tarballs in the > original source. I'm not thrilled about this but it's doable. > > - try to get upstream to extend their deprecation period to accommodate > "slower" distributions. Listed mostly for completeness; the discussion > that led to the current policy was hot enough that I don't really want > to reopen that can of worms. Yeah, I'm not thrilled about the second two options here either. Dominic. -- Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/ PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]

