-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-12-21 16:38, 01 wrote: > You're kinda right, > > To be more clear: > > I try to keep my system minimal, so I should have turned off recommends since > the start. > Still, for common users, "recommends" has the same effect than > "depends". It's not "their choice", it's *default*, but that's the > purpose of it. So, just like you said, if they really want to get > vanilla, they'll have to untick it manually (or configure their > package managers), which is not that obvious. At least, when > sticking with this default behavior (which I did for years), depending > on how packages are "informed", it's more or less easy to obtain what we > expect.
given that "puredata" recommends "gem" since debian/potato (that was pd-0.28 and gem-0.81), the ordinary Debian user is more likely to _expect_ "gem" to be automatically installed. it's always hard to talk about "expectations of the user" if they are different from ours. > As I see it, the user experience of someone who wants to > install PD should have been "okay, I click on puredata, that brings me > vanilla, and oh, I'll add puredata-gem with it", rather than "I click > on puredata, it installs gem, weird, ah, it is a recommended package, I > can untick it (and every of its dependencies) if I want". i think your comparision in unbalanced. the current use experience is "okay, I click on puredata, that brings me vanilla, and oh, it'll add puredata-gem with it" which is quite close to what you suggested. and btw, "gem" is not "puredata" (vanilla) specific, hence it is "gem" (or "pd-gem" if you want), as it is supposed to work with pd-extended as well. > Puredata is a very modular software by essence, so is it weird to care > about offering users a straightforward way to get a barebone version of > it ? fgasdr IOhannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk7x8M8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQ6fACfTxMEr5Cjef0XLpfcUjVhRKbt K2EAnj3WSKZIFUqQP9HNABCaMhVCVF5q =zbYY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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