At 03:46 PM 2/11/05 -0500, Tim Peters wrote:
If Larry is correct, it isn't legally possible for an individual in
the US to disclaim copyright, regardless what they may say or sign.
The danger then is that accepting software that purports to be free of
copyright can come back to bite you, if the author later changes their
mind (from your POV; the claim is that from US law's POV, nothing has
actually changed, since the author never actually gave up copyright to
begin with).

The very fact that this argument exists underscores the desirability
of only accepting software with an explicit license, spelling out the
copyright holder's intents wrt distribution, modification, etc.  Then
you're just in legal mud, instead of legal quicksand.

And as long as we're flailing about in a substance which may include, but is not limited to, mud and/or quicksand or other flailing-suitable legal substances, it should be pointed out that even though software presented by its owner to be in the public domain is technically still copyright by that individual, the odds of them successfully prosecuting a copyright enforcement action might be significantly narrowed, due to the doctrine of promissory estoppel.


Promissory estoppel is basically the idea that one-sided promises *are* enforceable when somebody reasonably relies on them and is injured by the withdrawal. IBM, for example, has pled in its defense against SCO that SCO's distribution of its so-called proprietary code under the GPL constituted a reasonable promise that others were free to use the code under the terms of the GPL, and that IBM further relied on that promise. Ergo, they are claiming, SCO's promise is enforceable by law.

Of course, SCO v. IBM hasn't had any judgments yet, certainly not on that subject, and maybe never will. But it's important to know that the law *does* have some principles like this that allow overriding the more egregiously insane aspects of the law. :)

Oh, also, if somebody decides to back out on their dedication to the public domain, and you can show that they did it on purpose, then that's "unclean hands" and possibly "copyright abuse" as well.

Just to muddy up the waters a little bit. :) Obviously, the PSF should follow its own lawyer's advice, but it seemed to me that the point of Mr. Rosen's article was more to advise people releasing software to use a license that allows them to disclaim warranties.

I personally can't see how taking the reasonable interpretation of a public domain declaration can lead to any difficulties, but then, IANAL. I'm surprised, however, that he didn't even touch on promissory estoppel, if there is some reason he believes that the doctrine wouldn't apply to a software license. Heck, I was under the impression that free copyright licenses in general got their effect by way of promissory estoppel, since such licenses are always one-sided promises. The GPL in particular makes an explicit point of this, even though it doesn't use the words "promissory estoppel". The point is that the law doesn't allow you to copy, so the license is your defense against a charge of copyright infringement. Therefore, even Rosen's so-called "Give it away" license is enforceable, in the sense that the licensor should be barred from taking action against someone taking the license at face value.

Rosen also says, "Under basic contract law, a gift cannot be enforced. The donor can retract his gift at any time, for any reason". If this were true, I could give you a watch for Christmas and then sue you to make you give it back, so I'm not sure what he's getting at here.

But again, IANAL, certainly not a famous one like Mr. Rosen. I *am* most curious to know why his article seems to imply that a promise not to sue someone for copyright infringement isn't a valid defense against such a suit, because that would seem to imply that *no* free software license is valid, including the GPL or the PSF license! (Surely those "gifts" can be retracted too, no?)



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