On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 12:20:57AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 16 août 2009 à 23:59 +0930, Ron a écrit : > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 01:01:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > please go to hell. > > > > Thanks for that Joss. You make an important point, I had completely > > failed to mention obnoxious bastards among the groups there seemed > > little point trying to coordinate anything usefully with in advance... > > > > Thanks for playing your part to help make this picture complete again. > > So that’s it? You’re breaking other packages just to annoy people?
If adopting abandoned packages on zero notice and trying to fix them up annoys people, then sure. But you probably shouldn't rule out that I'm just a pawn in an elaborate conspiracy, carefully tailored to maximise annoyance to you. When that gets boring, you might like to have a look at the state of some of the packages that got you so easily annoyed, and redirect your bile in a more productive fashion. Disregarding those that were already scheduled for binNMUs, here's a quick sampling of what we're facing, in no particular order: http://bugs.debian.org/465057 http://bugs.debian.org/505122 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=iaxcomm http://bugs.debian.org/530728 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=player http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=gnomoradio http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=sdl-mixer1.2 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=basket There's plenty more where those came from, they're just some from the packages that you highlighted. > Thanks for making this clear. I can't speak for you, but it sure annoys the hell out of me to have these things rotting unattended to. If you want to just hold your nose and walk past them quickly, that's your choice, but don't accuse me of being malintentioned by wanted them to be discovered and wanting to see something done to fix that. I'm certainly not going to adopt them all, and frankly, yeah I _don't_ give a shit about most of them. But if nobody else does either, then we should know that and remove them from the list of release candidates for squeeze. Pretending they are ok because you depend on them but don't actually use them or know how broken or neglected they are is simply NOT HELPFUL. > My request stands. Then when you get your irony detector fixed, save me a seat at the bar. I'm genuinely grateful to you for providing at least the briefest of summaries of the packages you care about that this has shaken out, even if it was hastily cobbled together and contained duplicates and packages that were already scheduled for a rebuild. And genuinely sorry for any inconvenience it caused you along the way. But that doesn't change the facts on the ground, or excuse that your first impulse was to be an ass about it. If you want my respect, and concern for your problems, then help fix the real problems in these libs, and don't just fire cheap shots at the messenger who _is_ spending more of their volunteer time trying to improve the situation. kthxbye, Ron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
