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Package: alsa-source
Version: 1.0.21+dfsg-2
Severity: normal
Rebuild alsa modules with module-assistant against 2.6.30-2 kernel source
does not work. Compiler complains aginst a missing } character in source.
-- Package-specific info:
--- Begin additional package status ---
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version
Description
+++-=============================================-=============================================-==========================================================================================================
ii alsa-base 1.0.21+dfsg-2
ALSA driver configuration files
ii libasound2 1.0.21a-1
shared library for ALSA applications
--- End additional package status ---
--- Begin /proc/asound/version ---
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20.
--- End /proc/asound/version ---
--- Begin /proc/asound/cards ---
0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
HDA NVidia at 0xf9ef8000 irq 20
1 [pcsp ]: PC-Speaker - pcsp
Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61
--- End /proc/asound/cards ---
--- Begin /dev/snd/ listing ---
total 0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 0 Oct 11 14:44 controlC0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 32 Oct 11 14:44 controlC1
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 4 Oct 11 14:44 hwC0D0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 24 Oct 11 14:48 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 16 Oct 11 14:48 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 25 Oct 11 14:46 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 17 Oct 11 14:46 pcmC0D1p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 26 Oct 11 14:44 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 48 Oct 11 14:48 pcmC1D0p
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 1 Oct 11 14:44 seq
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 116, 33 Oct 11 14:44 timer
--- End /dev/snd/ listing ---
-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.30-2-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Versions of packages alsa-source depends on:
ii bzip2 1.0.5-3 high-quality block-sorting file co
ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.27 Debian configuration management sy
ii debconf-utils 1.5.27 debconf utilities
ii debhelper 7.4.2 helper programs for debian/rules
ii dpkg-dev 1.15.3.1 Debian package development tools
ii gcc [c-compiler] 4:4.3.3-9 The GNU C compiler
ii gcc-4.3 [c-compiler] 4.3.4-2 The GNU C compiler
ii make 3.81-6 An utility for Directing compilati
Versions of packages alsa-source recommends:
ii fakeroot 1.13.1 Gives a fake root environment
ii kernel-package 12.021 A utility for building Linux kerne
ii linux-headers-2.6.30-2-amd64 2.6.30-8 Header files for Linux 2.6.30-2-am
ii module-assistant 0.11.1 tool to make module package creati
alsa-source suggests no packages.
Versions of packages alsa-base depends on:
ii linux-sound-base 1.0.21+dfsg-2 base package for ALSA and OSS soun
ii lsof 4.81.dfsg.1-1 List open files
ii module-init-tools 3.10-3 tools for managing Linux kernel mo
ii udev 0.141-2 /dev/ and hotplug management daemo
Versions of packages libasound2 depends on:
ii libc6 2.9-25 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
-- debconf information:
alsa-source/cards_to_be_built: all
alsa-source/cards:
alsa-source/has_pnp: true
alsa-source/debug: false
alsa-source/cards_with_descriptions:
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--- Begin Message ---
On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 22:12 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * Ben Hutchings [091024 20:15 +0100]
> > On Sat, 2009-10-24 at 20:38 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> [...]
> > > There is no trouble to be saved. We are providing the newest alsa
> > > driver sources so that they can be build with whatever 2.6 kernel
> > > you want.
> >
> > Well that's nice for people who are using Debian stable, but doesn't
> > answer why this belongs in Debian testing/unstable.
>
> Well, 2.6.30 provides alsa 1.0.20. The Debian alsa-source package
> 1.0.21 provides many improvments, optimizations and new drivers.
And 2.6.31 was uploaded today (and has been available in experimental
for a few weeks already).
> > > This is the intention of the alsa developers as well. So
> > > FMPOV the Debian kernel maintainers have to cooperate with that idea
> > > too.
> >
> > No, we don't. Upgrading drivers outside the kernel image package is a
> > really bad idea because:
> >
> > 1. Most users never install those driver packages, so they don't get the
> > benefit
>
> Many users want the actual drivers of alsa.
Which are in the Linux kernel package.
> The hardware development
> is much faster than the Debian kernel maintainers can follow up. So
> you need our support ;-)
We really don't need this kind of 'support'.
> > 2. The driver package can fall behind the kernel package, but will still
> > be used in preference to the version in the kernel package
>
> alsa-source is most newer than the Debian kernel provides.
Maybe it is today.
> > 3. Users can report bugs against the kernel and it won't be obvious that
> > they're using a different version of the driver
>
> The Debian Kernel is used to be stable. This is what stable means by
> its word and not what users want.
You just told us that users want newer drivers. Which is it?
> > 4. Duplicated code makes the security team unhappy
>
> There is no code duplicated. The alsa-source is meant to be the same
> as provided with vanilla.
The code is duplicated between the linux-2.6 and alsa-source source
packages.
> > If there are specific new drivers, bug fixes or device id updates that
> > should be added to a stable release, please let us know and we can
> > update the kernel package.
>
> Hmm, patch as patch can? This is not the way Linux is alive from.
It is exactly the way every distribution with a long-term stable
releaase maintains its kernel package.
> > > > Also, please get rid of linux-sound-base because OSS is dead.
> > >
> > > You are a only forward looking hacker. We want to provide this to
> > > older versions too.
> > >
> > > Please have a look at the Debian kernel patches for the reaseon why
> > > alsa-source package doesn't build against the Debian kernels but to
> > > the stock ones. Try talking to your co-maintainers ;-)
> >
> > We talk on a regular basis and no-one seems to think this is a bug in
> > the kernel header packages. The alsa-source build system is doing
> > something strange and wrong.
>
> So you must be able to point out why Debians alsa-source builds
> against stock kernels and not against Debian ones, please.
No, we don't have to solve your problem. I'll be happy to take over
maintenance of alsa-driver if, as it seems. you are not competent to do
so.
Ben.
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