James Clarke dixit: >I don't have problems sending to anyone else. I use Google's SMTP server for
Yes, that is a problem: Google has repeatedly been proven to be too stupid to run public-facing servers for many protocols, espe‐ cially mail servers, and they consider themselves above standards. The problem here is that Google “mail” servers (using the term loosely) don’t resend from the same originating IP, thus not adhering to the contract that makes greylisting possible. I often end up getting messages from Googlemail users weeks later, when the resending _does_ happen from an IP that passes greylisting. (They don’t do this for either IP or Legacy IP, my mailservers do both.) They also don’t act on abuse mails, which makes them similarily unfit, but has not caused a block on my side. >Ok, so, on re-reading 0.83's manpage, it's actually wrong; --build never took >an argument directly. However, by virtue of getop_long, you could put the dsc >anywhere in the arguments; the following all worked: > >> cowbuilder --build foo.dsc --option >> cowbuilder --build --option foo.dsc Oh, ouch… >However, given that I did not notice the "--build .dsc-file" bit when I first >re-read it, I have changed my mind and will allow the old style to work. This OK, thanks. >*will* give a deprecation warning though, and I intend to remove it during the >Buster release cycle; is that ok for you? I don't want to support this forever Yes, that’s okay and should give people ample time to change their scripts. >Having looked more closely at src:cowdancer's reverse depends, I have found at >least one package that calls cowbuilder without giving --build first. >Therefore I >will remove the deprecation warnings for Stretch, as reverse-depends will not >be >able to be fixed in time. Indeed. Thank you! bye, //mirabilos -- Stéphane, I actually don’t block Googlemail, they’re just too utterly stupid to successfully deliver to me (or anyone else using Greylisting and not whitelisting their ranges). Same for a few other providers such as Hotmail. Some spammers (Yahoo) I do block.