Hi debian-cd, I just noticed something about the current ISO images and I thought I would mention it. I was looking at ISO sizes in relation to available media sizes. In addition to DVD and CD, another common media type is 80mm mini-CDs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mini_CD these hold either 210mb or 185mb (I'm not sure if this is the usable size, it might be something slightly smaller). I have some Memorex "Pocket CD-RW" of this size and they are 185mb, but I was able to find CD-R and CD-RW from 185-210 available for sale online. I have been told (by Steve Langasek) that the netinst image sizes are "whatever it takes to do net install, to be used on a regular CD but kept as small as possible for download purposes". The netinst images are all pretty close to the 185mb mini-CD size, arch size free space on a 185mb disk ========================================= arm: 136mb 49mb sparc: 138mb 47mb amd64: 145mb 40mb i386: 159mb 26mb alpha: 162mb 23mb hppa: 162mb 23mb mips: 168mb 17mb mipsel: 170mb 15mb ia64: 212mb -27mb ppc: 234mb -49mb Only ia64 and powerpc are over that size which is good, that means that most of the current netinst images are usable on miniCDs, if not optimal. But there's also some opportunity to squeeze a little more on there for most of the archs. Getting the ia64 and powerpc below 185mb would be good, making use of the extra space on the other archs would be a bonus. I also looked at the Business Card media format. The above URL claims that this format ranges from 30-100mb but nearly everything I found was 50mb (I did find a single 45mb type). I think it's safe to optimimize for 50mb for the businesscard images. Here's the current size, arch size free space on a 50mb disk ======================================== arm: 20mb 30mb alpha: 25mb 25mb sparc: 25mb 25mb hppa: 31mb 19mb i386: 33mb 17mb amd64: 34mb 16mb mipsel: 35mb 15mb mips: 36mb 14mb ia64: 55mb -5mb ppc: 70mb -20mb Again ia64 and powerpc need to lose a little and the rest have some room to play with. In addition to trying to make better use of the space, some other ideas occurred to me: 1) could you make multi-arch businesscards of i386 and amd64? 2) could you make multi-arch mini-CDs of i386/amd64/ppc by combining their businesscard images? Should any of the above turn into wishlist bugs? If so, filed against what? Thanks, -- Matt Taggart [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

