big5和gb编码共存不是问题吧,maillist在这方面好像也不会有问题,由于大家使用的邮件客户端不同,所以为了方便没有必要强制改用utf-8编码吧。使用少数民族语言我认为是会影响阅读理解的,debian的讨论我想按语言分就好,而没有必要按所谓国家、民族分。个人认为交流方便是最重要的,编码可能解决了传输问题,但不能解决人理解不了不同民族语言的问题。
所以我个人的观点是:虽然支持简繁邮件列表的合并,但认为不必要使用UTF-8,也不需在这个汉语邮件列表中合并入非汉语的少数民族文字。如果少数民族朋友确有需要,可以去相应语言的讨论区,或讨论申请新的列表。 2008/5/21 Yufeng Lan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 抱歉延迟回复,我想鼓励大家都订使用utf8的统一中文用户列表,但是我担心有历史遗留问题(前面有的邮件谈到技术、文化、个人偏好上的困难),同时考虑到保存一个多样化的中文环境,简单的办法就是保留历史( > 至少50年不变:) > ),当然这要看社区资源是否允许这么"浪费",其实喜欢"纯"简体和繁体的用户也可以设立邮件列表(反正g00g1e等免费提供,他们自己可以选举管理员,我也希望将来加入这些特殊的讨论组)。 > 订阅2-3个邮件列表对我不是麻烦,我个人没问题。 > > 不限语言,只要是想在华人世界讨论,什么语言都包容,包括维吾尔、藏文、德语、俄语、火星文、骇客语,这也是UTF8的优势。不然又有人或组织会抗议文化灭绝了。我们在某些文化问题上还是要注意,资源允许的条件下尽量包容,这对我们的社区有好处。 > > 大家都提了不少好的建议,我个人非常高兴看到这么多好的点子。 > > 2008/5/19 Zhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> why, just so to have less users per list. if most users end up subscribe >> to all three, why not just merge them. >> >> 为什么,那样每个邮件列表上的人会更少。估计很多人会订阅两三个,为什么不直接合并。 >> >> 不限语言?我希望中文列表上还是看中文好。英文勉强接受,至少大家懂。其它的还是不要了。 >> >> On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:50:57 +0800, Yufeng Lan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> 同意,保持繁体的继续生存。 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 默认用utf8,不限语言,当然用户大部分是华人。 >>> 其他保持原状不变,一国3码。 >>> >>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Shih-Yuan Lee (FourDollars) < >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> My opinion is to reopen [EMAIL PROTECTED] to use utf8 or >>>> to open another mailing list, named as >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Keep [EMAIL PROTECTED] and >>>> [email protected] for their local users. >>>> Then use traditional chinese in [email protected] >>>> and use simplified chinese in [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Use both of traditional and simplified chinese in >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> $4 >>>> >>>> 2008/5/19 Rex Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>> > Hash: SHA1 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > This is interesting, this thread is probably one of the most active >>>> > in >>>> > last couple months. :-) >>>> > >>>> > My option is to merge these two mailing list. >>>> > >>>> > Even though the list is most helping Debian users solve their >>>> > problems, and users feel more comfortable when using the characters >>>> > they >>>> > can read. But there are already many local user group[1] set up online >>>> > forum for helping out the users, which makes the mission of these two >>>> > mailing lists marginal. >>>> > >>>> > Some people would say Debian is doing very good on supporting >>>> > Chinese. >>>> > But it does not mean we can stop the mailing list. Still, there are >>>> > many >>>> > decisions need to be made for the new packages and releases. And both >>>> > encodings/languages communities are sharing these results of these >>>> > decisions, since we are sharing the basically infrastructures for >>>> > fonts, >>>> > input method, configurations. >>>> > >>>> > The mailing list is the right place to submit Chinese-related >>>> > suggestions, which is the place that Debian Developers can discuss and >>>> > work together. A boundary of mailing encodings will make this kind of >>>> > discussions difficult. And most of the modern softwares support >>>> > big5/gb2312/unicode without problems, people can easily read the >>>> > messages or translate the encodings by themselves. There is not need >>>> > to >>>> > split the mailing lists by encodings. >>>> > >>>> > best regards >>>> > - -Rex >>>> > >>>> > 1. http://www.chinalinuxpub.com/bbs/forumdisplay.php?f=73 >>>> > http://www.debsir.org/ >>>> > http://www.linuxsir.org/bbs/ >>>> > http://moto.debian.org.tw/ >>>> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >>>> > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >>>> > >>>> > iD8DBQFIMP4YOl4Wbdx2/rkRAj7jAJ4y0kY+E6yvtuF7jlXi68+zD2MvhgCeM/cs >>>> > yhlu39HZHLJecoRuiEG5xTk= >>>> > =Csn6 >>>> > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> -- >> regards, >> >> Zhan >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > -- 以Wiki模式创建Linux中文文档,欢迎加入 http://www.linux-wiki.cn/

