Thanks Charles,
We will certainly bring this up and discuss cloud-init broadly as well (I
think it warrants some time).

Japan wakes up during our early evening. If there is a time one of these
mornings that you want to join let me know and we'll save this discussion
for then. 4PM Seattle is 8AM in Tokyo.

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Zach Marano
[email protected]

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Charles Plessy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> thanks again Zach for organising this Sprint.
>
> I just looked again at the time zone difference between Japan and Seattle,
> and
> I realised that it will be too hard for me to be available remotely.
>
> Nevertheless, if you could discuss about maintenance of cloud-init, I
> would be
> very happy.
>
> On my side, it is still a challenge, and a pressure, to give proper time to
> this package.  At the moment, I do not have opportunities to use it
> regularly,
> which leaves me in the situation where I can do patch pushing, but have no
> deep
> understanding on whether things work robustly.  I would be releived if
> there
> were a more visible team taking care of it.  In my experience, there are
> two
> main difficulties.  First, the upstream authors do not issue frequent point
> releases.  It means that to bring a bug fix in Debian, one needs either to
> wait, or to patch, or to grab one of the bzr snapshots used as upstream
> release
> in the Ubuntu packages (which are de facto point releases).  Second, we are
> downstream of Ubuntu.  It means that either we duplicate work, or we end
> up in
> odd situations when trying to follow their packaging work (for instance
> with
> the translation process).  None of this is too hard to solve, but it adds
> some
> overhead to the time needed for taking a proper care of the package, so
> please
> be warned.
>
> Since I will not be present, here are some very brief news on my attempts
> to
> use Debian-Installer in the AWS.  I have updated the instructions on the
> wiki
> to use the latest `aws` command line utility instead of `euca2ools`.
> Following
> these instructions, one can make a bootable D-I image that will install
> Debian
> in a volume, and turn that volume in an image.  Using network-console, the
> whole installation can be done interactively.  Next, I would like to write
> a
> preseed file to automate the installation.  While aiming at this, I first
> procrastinated a bit and wrote a Haskell script that parses all Debconf
> templates from D-I and ouptuts them in a single HTML page, to better
> document
> the possible options.  This is where I am now.
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2016/09/msg00075.html
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2DebianInstaller
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Charles
>
> --
> Charles Plessy
> Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
>

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