On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 8:57 AM, gustavo panizzo <gfa> <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:56:01AM -0800, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 06:02:12PM +0800, gustavo panizzo (gfa) wrote: > > > Watching how I can improve the current status of Debian support at > $DAYJOB > > > I realized that AWS agents are not packaged even if their license > > > allows it > > > > > > I wonder if packaging them, on main, would make Debian supported by > AWS? > > > > > > When I said supported by AWS I mean Debian having the same status as > Amazon Linux, > > > RH, and Ubuntu in docs like this > > > > > > http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/ > sysman-install-ssm-agent.html > > > http://docs.aws.amazon.com/codedeploy/latest/userguide/ > how-to-run-agent-install.html > > > > Note that for each of the supported OSes referenced in the above docs, > > the agent is packaged and distributed by AWS directly, and is not part > > of the distribution. So being present in the distro is not a requirement > > for support. I will follow up with contacts at AWS and see if I can > Yes, but for amazon linux is just a yum install away, I'd like to reach > similar status in Debian > > > learn more details about what makes a distro eligible for support. I > > suspect that demand from AWS customers is a large part of it. > > > > Regarding the list of specific agents you provided, yes, each of them is > > potentially a candidate for inclusion in Debian. It's simply a matter of > > somebody being sufficiently motivated to do that work... > > > > > Maybe there are other agents out there that I don't know about it > > > > Amazon ECS Init should also be packaged. > > https://github.com/aws/amazon-ecs-init > OK > > > > > > I'm *really* interested in feedback from from Amazon folks here, if > Debian doesn't > > > get the supported status by AWS, I won't have the time to own this > > > effort (I don't know ruby so I can't help with the CodeDeploy agent > > > anyway) > > > > I suspect that there are two things that need to happen for AWS to > > officially consider Debian supported in their docs, etc: > > > > 1. Customers have to be asking for official support. If there's not > > sufficient customer demand, it's probably not even on AWS's radar. I > > don't not know what would constitute "sufficient". > > > > 2. There could be formal partnership agreements between the distro and > > AWS. I'm not sure, and I don't know what the terms of such an agreement > > would be, so I have no idea if this would be an option for Debian. > > > > Obligatory Disclaimer: I work for AWS, but I am not involved in > > determining what is supported by them. I'm not speaking on their behalf > > here. > yeah, I know any help from you guys doesn't "bind" AWS to support > Debian, anyway your input is greatly appreciated > > Sorry if my email sounded a bit aggressive/rude, it wasn't my intention. > I'm just not native speaker > > If we can get Debian included in docs, etc, I can allocate time to work on > the agents > If you found the time to do this, whether or not Debian is listed in AWS docs, I think Debian's users would benefit, and is for that reason worth doing. The main challenge I see is that typically these tools evolve at a faster rate than Debian stable, and users will need the latest version, so maybe make them "backports only"? Thanks, Brian thanks > > > > noah > > > > > > -- > 1AE0 322E B8F7 4717 BDEA BF1D 44BB 1BA7 9F6C 6333 > > keybase: https://keybase.io/gfa > -- <http://www.aws-partner-directory.com/PartnerDirectory/PartnerDetail?Name=Brandorr+Group+LLC>
