On Monday, 20 April 2020 16:57:19 PDT Noah Meyerhans wrote: > This is a continuation, in spirit, of a thread from last summer, but I'm > intentionally starting a new one here. [1] > > This post will specifically focus on the Debian AWS Marketplace > listings, which are currently split across two AWS accounts [2][3] > > We've got some inconsistencies between our current listings and our old > ones, and some long-standing issues [4] that would be nice to clean up. > I'd like some input on how best to do so. > > Product title: For older releases, the title is listed as (e.g.) "Debian > GNU/Linux 9 (Stretch)". For buster, it is "Debian 10 Buster". I prefer > the formating used for stretch, and would like to update buster to > match. I'm open to the idea of listing only the version number, and > dropping the code name, but don't feel strongly either way. Opinions? > > Product overview: For buster, the overview is simply "Debian 10 "Buster" > for Amazon Web Services." For stretch, it is a longer blob of copypasta > from the Debian entry on Wikipedia. Neither of these is ideal, IMO. > Some condensed version of About Debian[5] would probably be better, but > I don't have anything specific in mind. Is there existing text that > would work better here? > > Highlights: Stretch lists a couple of items in the "Highlights" section > on the listings pages: "After 26 months of development the Debian > project is proud to present its new stable version 9 (code name > "Stretch"), which will be supported for the next 5 years" and "Debian 9 > is dedicated to the project's founder Ian Murdock, who passed away on 28 > December 2015". Buster is only "The universal operating system." I > think pulling some snippets in from the release notes makes sense for > buster. Agree? > > The AWS Marketplace requires some text for a "EULA". Currently we link > to the Social Contract for that, but that's not at all written like a > EULA and doesn't specifically discuss legal rights or restrictions. > IMO, as suggested in #696596 [4], we should replace the EULA text with > something similar to what's in the default MOTD. Thoughts? > > Support information: The stretch listing says "Debian is developed and > supported by a diverse global community. It can be reached through a > variety of means including email, IRC, and web forums." and links to > www.debian.org/support. Buster indicates that "No Support is offered > for this product" I'd like to make buster match the stretch listing. > > I think this has gotten plenty long enough, and covers the important > things, so let's leave it at this for now. Thanks for reading, and I > look forward to your input! > Hi Noah,
Thanks for bringing this up. I use AWS professionally for many years now, and I'd like to suggest a few things for consideration that I personally find useful when I am looking at the AMI: - I often want to make sure that this is *really* the official AMI, some kind of link to the debian page that says "yes, this is indeed Debian's account ID would make me feel more reassured. - Next I often want to know when is the End of Life for this release, having that information in AMI description would save time googling it. - The reason why I use Debian AMIs is because they contain almost no bloat (if you compare to how much stuff is in Fedora or Ubuntu), so having a handy link to AMI build configuration that tells you what packages are pre-installed is a nice thing IMHO - I personally almost never read generic descriptions that usually say something along the lines of: "this is a general purpose free OS, with so many packages, and founded in 1815, and GNU and bla bla Linus Torvalds.. " but it may be only me. I would prefer this be replaced with something more concise, like bullet points. Example: Debian 10 Buster Webiste Url: https://debian.org Debian cloud images: <url to the page that says that this is a really official ami" AMI Configuration page: <url> Release Number: 10 EOL: ~ 2022 Arch: x86 More info: <link to all the rest of the generic descriptions somewhere on debian.og> Thanks ------------------- Ihor Antonov
