#include <hallo.h> * Herbert Xu [Fri, Oct 25 2002, 10:00:20PM]: > > > Firstly I argue that VESA FB is only needed by a very small proportion > > > of our i386 users. This stems from the fact that the great majority of > > > > I strongly object to this attitude. Shall we start argumenting for > > What attitude? The sentence you quoted is just a premise for the > conclusion below.
Exactly, you argument with "minority" not knowing the numbers. > Well the laptop users that you know seem to be rather different > from those that I know. The people who I know either use X or > are quite happy with text in vga16. > > > VGA16 as replacement is a joke - and you know this. > > It's quite useable for laptops in text mode at least. Useable - sure, but how? Sticked to 640x480, too large font, a nightmare for console user. And it is not sharpen on LCD monitors while you can set a vesafb resolution that you need. > > > it as a matter of principle. There is a number of other device drivers > > > in the kernel which have not be modularised. They're similar to VESA FB > > > > Examples please. Good examples. > > arpd, sch_atm, lp_console, nfs_root, ... As said, _good_ examples. How many users need that features? Note, am talking about masses of home and soho systems, not terminal servers. > > You have already began to do so with much larger pieces of code, ie. > > quota support. Remember, we are talking about support for a hardware > > Well It's my job as the maintainer to make such decisions. I have > decided that quota is of general interest and irreplaceble while > vesafb is not. I do not know any single user that uses quota on the personal box, only few servers. > > Who exactly needs this flexibility? Your kernel packages are for > > _users_. > > The flexibility to modularise fbcon. You may wish to use an alternative > implementation for instance. As said, WHO needs it? > > As said, it is said to be not trivial. > > I certainly see no obvious stumbling block. Unfortunately I have so > many things to do and the fact that you keep bitching certainly isn't > a great motivating factor. Sure. But I am not the first and not the last person bitching about your bullheaded decisions. EOD. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- <weasel> for i in *; do if ( cat $i | grep -q hallo ); then echo $i; fi; done [einen Tag später] -:- Topic (#debian.de): changed by _shorty_: Award fuer useless use of cat an Weasel verliehen. :)