Jordi Mallach writes ("Re: Bug#688772: gnome Depends network-manager-gnome"):
> The Debian GNOME team is well aware of the discussion regarding
> #688772,Thanks for your mail. (I have bounced it to the bug report - all discussions on TC issues should be sent to the bug, rather than directly to the TC list.) > multiple connection managers problem > ==================================== > > One of the real issues when NM is a Depend of the meta-packages is that it > violated the principle of "do no harm" when being installed on a system > which already has a connection manager (such as wicd or less commonly > connman). While this is not a problem specific to NM (installing wicd on > an NM system causes the same problem), the problem is of course triggered > by the Depend in the gnome meta package. Right. I think this is the key problem. > Solving this issue properly will not only make the biggest issues seen with > gnome depending on NM go away, but will also improve Debian as a whole, which > is of course always worthwhile. > > The best solution we can currently propose for this issue is to add some > maintainer script logic to present a debconf prompt (similar to how we > currently manage multiple display managers like gdm and kdm which can be > installed at the same time). To avoid unnecessary debconf prompts, the > debconf prompt would only be shown if such a "conflict" situation is > detected. I believe the difference between Depends and Recommends in gnome is relevant only for existing systems which do not currently have n-m installed. Is that your understanding too ? Such systems presumably already have some other mechanism for configuring the network. On such a system installing n-m and then detecting the conflict and disabling n-m has some obvious technical disadvantages compared to simply leaving n-m uninstalled: there is a need for additional scripting, which may have bugs, and perhaps additional debconf prompts. Presumably you believe there are technical advantages of installing n-m but disabling it, compared to simply leaving n-m uninstalled. But I'm afraid I still don't understand what they are. Can you please explain them to me ? > Michael has done a proof of concept implementation [1] which is one step > in that direction, by simply having NM provide a prompt when it detects > that the wicd binary is installed. A more full implemenation would of > course require modifications to the wicd package (and connman) as well. I'm assuming that you would intended this for jessie, not wheezy ? Thanks, Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

