Hi,

At the last TC meeting we concluded that we'd heard sufficient argument on this issue to clarify the issues, and that we should therefore proceed to a vote.

Here's a draft ballot; please suggest changes and/or say you're happy with it in the next couple of days, I (or someone else!) can call for votes on it.

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In Bug #1084924, the Technical Committee was asked about a mass bug filing that aimed to remove all dependencies (except Provides: and Conflicts:) upon the system-log-daemon virtual package. Whilst the wording of policy in this area is unclear, the Technical Committee notes that long-standing practice in this area as reflected by policy was that packages could declare appropriate dependencies upon the system-log-daemon virtual package. The Technical Committee also acknowledges that on systemd systems, journald can serve the purpose of system-log-daemon, but that systemd also supports installing a separate system-log-daemon.

A) The Technical Committee affirms that it is reasonable for a package to declare any suitable dependency upon the system-log-daemon virtual package. The Technical Committee suggests that Policy be updated to clarify this, and that maintainers who removed such dependencies as a result of the mass bug filing consider restoring them.

B) The Technical Committee agrees that packages should now only declare Provides: and Conflicts: relationships with the system-log-daemon virtual package, and that Debian systems may be assumed to run a syslog logger. The Technical Committee suggests that Policy be update to reflect this change.

C) The Technical Committee resolves that this is a de facto attempt to change Policy, and that the Policy process should be used to consider whether to change Policy relating to system-log-daemon from the status quo of packages being able to declare any reasonable dependency upon system-log-daemon to the state where only Provides: and Conflicts: may be used. Until that process is concluded, dependencies upon the system-log-daemon should not be removed (unless they are incorrect on the merits of an individual case).

N) None of the above / Further Discussion.

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Regards,

Matthew

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