Hi,

1. Check 'nomail' and 'password reminder' in your mailing lists preferences
   (You would still be able to post anytime)

2a. browse the archives for new mail 
2a.1. ask archive maintainersfor a more real-time (online) web archive

2b. set up automated website monitoring ('homepage has been modified' -type of
services available at several websites) with email notification (this would of
course only filter the content of the spam mail

== optional steps follow ==

3. write a patch for the maling list software which would enable subscribed
people write new/reply to messages/threads from within their account

4. mailing lists admins would weed out spam from time to time from the archive.

5. set up (write? enable?) a mail robot gateway which would allow one to
browse/retrieve messages on/from the list.

== end of optional steps ==

Regards

Csan

Quoting Adam Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 08:13:41AM +0800, Onno Benschop wrote:
> > I suspect there should be a debian-spam list to discuss this, but I'm
> 
> > guessing it would act like a magnet :-)
> 
> If we were to seriously attempt to setup moderation then such a list
> would be very desirable (but I'd prefer calling it debian-moderators).
> 
> > 
> > I also think this issue is applicable to all debian lists, it just
> seems 
> > that of the lists I subscribe to, curiosa is the location this issue
> is 
> > being discussed on (as others pointed out, both good and bad)
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> > 
> > Readers to this list will know that I've asked silly questions about
> this 
> > in the past, but as I see it there are a number of issues to be dealt
> with 
> > regards to spam.
> > 
> > i1. Postings to debian should be as open as we can make it, but this
> also 
> > allows spammers to post.
> > i2. Automatic software will filter most (if not all spam), but it
> *may* 
> > also filter legitimate messages.
> > i3. The amount of traffic to debian lists makes it difficult to have a
> 
> > moderator for each (or all) list(s).
> > i4. spam to some is an issue to be dealt with locally at the receiver,
> 
> > others feel that from a resource perspective, it is better to be dealt
> with 
> > at the distribution side.
> > 
> > On to the questions:
> > q1. Is there a way to only accept postings from a verifiable (at time
> of 
> > posting) address?
> 
> I don't think so, not without sending a test email to them that
> requires a reply.  No better than simply subscribing to the list.
> 
> > q2. Could we only moderate spam filtered messages by way of a pool of
> 
> > moderators?
> 
> This is how I envisioned it being done.  I don't know how to set it up
> though.
> 
> > q3. Could we create a filtered version of each list
> (debian-*-filtered) and 
> > let the subscriber deal with which list to subscribe to?
> 
> I think this'd lead to a fork of the lists, which'd be Bad (tm).
> 
> My ideal way of setting it up would be a pool of moderators, with
> tools to automatically *allow* some people, specifically those
> subscribed and those from known-good addresses.  The rest would fall
> to the moderators.
> 
> I'd also like to have some sort of debian-rejected list (or atleast an
> archive for the list) that includes all the rejected mailings, for
> reference.
> 
> Making it notify people if they don't get handled within an hour may
> be an additional useful feature.
> 
> -- 
> Adam Olsen, aka Rhamphoryncus
> 
> 
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Csan

J�nos Hol�nyi
Hungarian Association of Linux Users
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