Hello all,

I use Debian a lot since sarge. I learned how to create Debian packages,
and I know a lot on packaging now. I just feel like Debian is not only an
amazing OS, but also an amazing community.

I was reading this mailing lists since the first proposals arived, and I
feel all the frustration with all those amazing artistic contributions not
getting a voting process. But, I also understand the actions needed to
release an amazing OS as Debian is: universal.

Ulrich, you are right, there should be a better decision on this subject.
Maybe this is my fault, too. I am a developer that wants to contribute to
the Debian project, but never had time to do so. And now I feel that I
should helped before. Maybe helping to organize the voting process, maybe
helping artists to get they themes packaged.

Now, that we are closer to the freeze process, I want to help packaging the
themes and try to recover the lost time. I want to help the Debian project
to have, as the project expects: diversity. I know how to create Debian
packages very well, I just need an oficial Debian maintainer to help me in
the process to upload it to the archives for testing.

Artists, thanks for your contributions, I would love to help packaging your
themes to let them be part of the next Debian release if we can do it
before the freeze takes place.

Thanks all,

2012/6/23 Ulrich Hansen <[email protected]>

>
> Am 22.06.2012 um 10:51 schrieb Adrien Aubourg:
>
> > I can totally understand the frustration of aeveryone here. If it comes
> to a
> > vote (public or not), be sure that I will accept the result, whatever it
> is.
>
> If you think a vote would have been a fairer and more respectful way to
> decide about the artworks and the artists who created them - well it's in
> your hands now and in your hands alone. You are the only one who is able to
> demand a vote, because it is your artwork they are using.
>
> And obviously there would be time enough (see Adam Barratt's mail from
> June 22nd, 09:19) as long as the d-i gets a nice picture in time before the
> freeze (see Joey Hess's mail from June 22nd, 11:44).
>
> Just packaging something doesn't make it right.
>
> > I don't want to be an element of misunderstanding or disfonction of the
> desktop
> > choose process.
>
> Yes, me too. But obviously the "processes" here keep pushing us into roles
> we don't want. Paul writes he doesn't want to be a dictator, but
> unfortunately he's acting like one - a "benevolent" one, if someone likes
> that better. I put a lot of time into the work here and wanted to be
> supportive, but obviously I am not and I am not liking that either. So I
> will now stop making "noise" here. A relief for everybody including me ;-).
>
> Without someone with the power to push it, there will be no vote. There
> are still people who like to have it happen. But I doubt they can get it
> accomplished, now that the "technical crew" took over and is running things
> as they think they must.
>
> Either way I withdraw my own proposals. They didn't get picked by Paul
> anyway so it's not a big deal. And if there is a need for alternatives or
> theme packages, there are still enough good choices. But the whole process
> made me feel disrespected and I don't like that. Sorry guys. Don't want to
> be a poor loser but as I see it the game has no rules and needs to be fixed.
>
> best wishes
>
> PS: "It will be fixed next time" didn't work last time.
>
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