On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:30:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Yannick <yannick.roeh...@free.fr> writes: > > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > >> And hey, the "good" reason was "diverting the package management tools > >> is unacceptable". But, no, we have to do insults instead of arguing. > > > > Alas, despite the diversion of the package management tools, I find ia32- > > apt-get pretty useful. > > > > For instance, I wanted to test Firefox 3.5 in 32bits on my amd64 Debian > > (64bit Firefox 3.5 does not have the new tracemonkey javascript engine). > > With ia32-apt-get, I could install the 32bit version of my GTK theme engine > > so that Firefox can look good. > > > > Is there a design problem in converting 32bits libraries to ia32-* packages > > or the sole problem is the diversion of apt-get and co? > > There where 3 minor bug reports about an ia32-* package not working > right. Out of an estimate of 160-200 packages people use. I think that > is pretty good. All 3 bugs where fix in a subsequent upload and > currently there are no reported missconversions. On the other hand ~45 > bugs about missconversion or missing packages in the old ia32-libs > where closed (and will have to be reopened now). So I don't believe > there is a design problem there. That part works just fine. > > But the diversions had people totaly in outrage. So much so that I > believe they didn't even look past that at all.
You absolutely don't get it do you ? Your conversion system is an ugly hack, something completely horrible, that is meant to break in horrible ways, has no forward upgrate path to a multiarch work, and so on. If you really mean to provide something like ia32-apt-get, what you ought to do is to: - help the user create and maintain a proper 32bits chroot; - let ia32-apt-get or whatever it's called be a forward to running apt-get inside that chroot; - find a way to let the user run commands from that chroot seamlessly. That would be totally acceptable, and probably an improvement over the current situation. -- Intersec <http://www.intersec.com> Pierre Habouzit <pierre.habou...@intersec.com> Tél : +33 (0)1 5570 3346 Mob : +33 (0)6 1636 8131 Fax : +33 (0)1 5570 3332 37 Rue Pierre Lhomme 92400 Courbevoie
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