On 2013-05-09 15:58:02 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 05/07/2013 10:34 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > > > Also, the rules in backports is that packages should be > > > already migrated to testing. The point is, if I had PPAs, I > > > wouldn't at all upload to SID and wait for a migration to > > > testing, because it would be better if the packages were > > > living in the PPA only (that would be a lot more flexible and > > > adapted to my use case). > > > > I think that would be a bit sad and I hope you don't do that. > > I agree. I tried to explain that to upstream, but no luck so far... > There's not much I can do, especially with a project of that size. [...]
To be fair, it's mostly growing pains. The project is only a few years old at this point and has over 500 active developers (a significant percentage of whom do it as a full-time job). There wasn't previously as strong a focus on long-term supportability and maintainability as the codebase grew. OpenStack doesn't officially do development work on bug fixes for releases over a year old, but also doesn't discourage packagers/distributors from attempting to do so (and is generally fairly helpful at pointing them in the right direction if the bug can be easily demonstrated). It has also recently grown a release upgrade testing suite in its CI, so future releases will at least provide a fully tested model for incrementally upgrading database schemas and configuration files from one release of OpenStack to the next. For distributions skipping intermediate releases this probably still means carrying a stub of the skipped releases in the next release, enough to be able to perform upgrades... but if you'll recall at our last summit there was also consensus around further splitting out the upgrade mechanisms so downstreams could make easier use of them (I think you were in the room for that conversation). -- { PGP( 48F9961143495829 ); FINGER( fu...@cthulhu.yuggoth.org ); WWW( http://fungi.yuggoth.org/ ); IRC( fu...@irc.yuggoth.org#ccl ); WHOIS( STANL3-ARIN ); MUD( kin...@katarsis.mudpy.org:6669 ); } -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130509144018.gu1...@yuggoth.org