On 11/06/13 00:37, Jens Roder wrote: > Hello, > > just like to add that today this "feature" with the popup blocked my gnome > within the suspend procedure, which I did not see but got a hot running > laptop in the bag. When I opened the laptop again I saw the problem and when > clicking on cancel, the laptop finally when to suspend.
That could explain one or more of the hot laptop experiences I had before - I had assumed the power management or kernel was at fault, although in my case it was so hot that it was unresponsive and I never found out what really caused it: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/03/msg00487.html If that is the case, then it provides more reason to disable the popup by default in stable > I think, just naming something a "feature" belongs more to microsoft behavior > and shouldn't be copied in the linux world. A few things maybe useful but not > for all people. Giving people the choice is the main point here. Whether you > create a package that configures all with the funny new "features" and leave > it to the user, if he wants this configuration or just uninstalls it to have > a more conservative behavior for server setups. > > I think it is a big mistake to design desktops with similar behaviors like > one knows from the windows world. Most popup do not make any sense and > interrupt people by working. Upcoming programs stealing the mouse, refocus, > or resize are just annoying when writing a document. > > The new gnome 3 desktop is nice, except it goes snow when too many windows > are open (for a CTWM no problem) or it blocks the desktop switching because > flashplayer freezes and gnome3 cannot access the graphics of the window. Nice > features but cause serious problem, similar like this uninforming root > password question and blocking the screen for wlan passwords. There is no > need to block the screen as it can accidently pop up while writing a document > and one would like to finish the sentence before typing a password. Such > things come with force, rather than with the option of action which is a more > elegant design. And another final problem are program menus which grap the > mouse and when the program freezes, there is no way to release the mouse > again execpt going out of X and into the consoles to kill the process. > Recently skype's technical information window did not vanish. From gome menu > I chose "close window" what it then did, but it took all with it and did > freeze the desktop, even CTRL+ALT+F1 did not work to go out. Was a reboot and > not nice > > I suggest to create window managers more independent from programs in order > to increase stabilization. Also even when configured strict mouse behavior, > the new upcoming program first graps the mouse and when moving it over the > next window, it does not follow, here one has to click, after all is fine. I > really suggest, give people more choice to configure things like they like or > they are used to. X window system and window manager together have really > nice features, just try not to make it like microsoft windows. I've also seen another laptop that is on the fringe of a wifi coverage zone getting into a bad state where multiple copies of the wifi password window appear - if the laptop is unattended for a few hours, you can come back to it and find 1,000s of those popups and it is unusable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51b6de48.4020...@pocock.com.au
