On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 08:08:17AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 12/06/13 00:02, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > On 2013-06-11 23:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >> Something that doesn't have these limitations:
> >>
> >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2487#section-7
> > [...]
> > 
> > That basically just makes the case for relying on (E)SMTP only for
> > transporting messages, but leveraging OpenPGP or S/MIME to provide
> > authentication and confidentiality where required (or for anonymity,
> > Mixmaster et al).
> 
> 
> OpenPGP and S/MIME don't guarantee anonymity as they don't (and can't
> really) encrypt the headers/envelope
> 
> That is the type of `metadata' that allows a hostile party to start
> building a social graph of who knows who.  Even if they can't see the
> contents of the communications, those social graphs are undesirable and
> an ideal solution would prevent that.
> 

Can I just check - have we really gone from a (far too long, IMO)
discussion on what default MTA we provide, to replacing SMTP?

Just so I know if it's worth killfiling the entire thread.

Neil
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