On 16/10/14 12:47, Dominik George wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> but it seems there is some dependency in jessie which makes gnome
>> unavailable
>> without systemd.
> 
> It is there because upstream requires it. There is no GNOME without systemd. 
> This is not specific to Debian.

No, that's wrong.

$ sudo aptitude install sysvinit-core
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  sysvinit-core 
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 204 not upgraded.
Need to get 130 kB of archives. After unpacking 253 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 systemd-sysv : Conflicts: sysvinit-core but 2.88dsf-53.4 is to be installed.
Internal error: found 2 (choice -> promotion) mappings for a single choice.
Internal error: found 2 (choice -> promotion) mappings for a single choice.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

      Remove the following packages:                                            
 
1)      aptdaemon                                                               
 
2)      brasero                                                                 
 
3)      colord                                                                  
 
4)      gdm3                                                                    
 
5)      gnome-control-center                                                    
 
6)      gnome-disk-utility                                                      
 
7)      gnome-session                                                           
 
8)      gnome-settings-daemon                                                   
 
9)      gnome-shell                                                             
 
10)     gnome-shell-dbg                                                         
 
11)     gvfs                                                                    
 
12)     gvfs-backends                                                           
 
13)     gvfs-daemons                                                            
 
14)     gvfs-dbg                                                                
 
15)     gvfs-fuse                                                               
 
16)     hplip                                                                   
 
17)     libpam-systemd                                                          
 
18)     nautilus                                                                
 
19)     nautilus-sendto                                                         
 
20)     network-manager                                                         
 
21)     network-manager-gnome                                                   
 
22)     packagekit                                                              
 
23)     packagekit-tools                                                        
 
24)     policykit-1                                                             
 
25)     policykit-1-gnome                                                       
 
26)     printer-driver-postscript-hp                                            
 
27)     steadyflow                                                              
 
28)     systemd-sysv                                                            
 
29)     udisks2                                                                 
 

      Leave the following dependencies unresolved:                              
 
30)     python-aptdaemon recommends aptdaemon                                   
 
31)     python3-aptdaemon recommends aptdaemon                                  
 
32)     libcolord2 recommends colord                                            
 
33)     libcolord-gtk1 recommends colord                                        
 
34)     cups recommends colord                                                  
 
35)     cups-daemon recommends colord                                           
 
36)     cups-filters recommends colord                                          
 
37)     empathy recommends gvfs-backends                                        
 
38)     evince recommends gvfs                                                  
 
39)     file-roller recommends gvfs                                             
 
40)     gnome-calculator recommends gvfs                                        
 
41)     gnome-control-center-data recommends gnome-control-center (>= 
1:3.14.0-1)
42)     gnome-media recommends gnome-control-center                             
 
43)     gnome-online-accounts recommends gnome-control-center (>= 3.6.1)        
 
44)     gnome-session-bin recommends libpam-systemd                             
 
45)     gnome-shell recommends gnome-control-center                             
 
46)     gnome-system-monitor recommends gvfs                                    
 
47)     gnome-terminal recommends gvfs                                          
 
48)     gvfs-common recommends gvfs                                             
 
49)     libsane-hpaio recommends hplip (= 3.14.6-1)                             
 
50)     liferea recommends steadyflow | kget                                    
 
51)     metacity recommends gnome-session | x-session-manager                   
 
52)     mousetweaks recommends gnome-control-center                             
 
53)     mutter recommends gnome-session | x-session-manager                     
 
54)     nautilus recommends gvfs-backends                                       
 
55)     nautilus-data recommends nautilus                                       
 
56)     printer-driver-all recommends printer-driver-postscript-hp              
 
57)     rhythmbox recommends gvfs-backends                                      
 
58)     rtkit recommends policykit-1                                            
 
59)     systemd recommends libpam-systemd                                       
 
60)     totem-plugins recommends gnome-settings-daemon                          
 
61)     udisks recommends policykit-1                                           
 
62)     upower recommends policykit-1                                           
 
63)     vino recommends gvfs                                                    
 
64)     apport recommends policykit-1                                           
 
65)     cheese recommends gvfs                                                  
 
66)     cheese recommends nautilus-sendto                                       
 
67)     python3-packagekit recommends packagekit                                
 
68)     libpackagekit-glib2-18 recommends packagekit (= 1.0.0-2)                
 


Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Remove the following packages:                
1)     systemd-sysv                                

     Install the following packages:               
2)     cgmanager [0.32-4 (testing, unstable)]      
3)     libcgmanager0 [0.32-4 (testing, unstable)]  
4)     libnih-dbus1 [1.0.3-4.3 (testing, unstable)]
5)     libnih1 [1.0.3-4.3 (testing, unstable)]     
6)     systemd-shim [8-2 (testing, unstable)]      



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] 

That should work fine. I haven't tried systemd-shim, I know there are
some issues with gdm3 (see the bug reports) but in general things
should be alright.

Emilio


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