On 2018-02-22 at 09:45, Geert Stappers wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 02:57:07PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Philip Hands wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm in favour of making it possible for our users to build
>>> structures that enable longer support periods if that's what they
>>> require. There would seem to be a need for an OS that would have
>>> support measured in decades rather than years, and we should not
>>> get in the way of Debian being that OS.
>> 
>> Indeed. And it's the reason why I mentionned CIP in my initial
>> mail. They are not interested in longer support for wheezy (too
>> early for them) but they are interested in working with us and
>> helping us to make this possible as part of Debian.  One of the
>> persons I am in contact with mentioned that CIP members could (at
>> some point) contribute security updates within Debian.
>> 
>> Looking a bit further, I see a way forward where we have the
>> security team (first 3 years), the LTS team (next 2 years), CIP
>> members (next 10 years) taking over the charge of security updates
>> for a given release.
>> 
>> And indeed if we prepare the infrastructure for this by finding a
>> way to host the updates for wheezy for longer than expected, we
>> pave the way for CIP to take over security maintenance of our old
>> releases.

> But what is "CIP"?
> 
> 
> My websearch did bring up "Clean In Place" and "Christelijk
> Intromatie Platform" ...

Referring back to Raphael's original mail, it would appear to stand for
"Civil Infrastructure Project".

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