On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 08:28:08AM +0800, Rolf Leggewie wrote: } Dear fellow maintainers, dear Lucas and Athos, > > I'd like to use this opportunity to relay my experiences with Lucas > Kanashiro (kanash...@debian.org) and Athos Ribeiro > (athoscribe...@gmail.com). TL;DR Going purely by my "interaction" or > rather the lack of it with them in the maintenance of gjots2, I have > some doubts they are fit to be DD or DM. I'm sure that doubts don't help here.
> Let me be clear, I am not calling for Lucas Kanashiro to be stripped of > DD privileges, but I would certainly like to raise my objections if > Athos ever attempted to become DM or DD. And I want to make sure that > Lucas' behaviour is documented and known in case of a repeat. > > For many years, I have maintained gjots2 and a number of other packages > in Debian, I am DM. Towards the end of March, totally out of the blue > Lucas and Atheros usurped maintenance of gjots2 from me without NMU, MIA > or any form of communication with me whatsoever. I am very active, both > in Debian and Ubuntu, anything but MIA. I have a working e-mail > account. About a week ago I asked them to reverse their changes which > until today hasn't happened so I went ahead and did it myself now, doing > their clean-up work. > > They might want to argue that gjots2 was poorly maintained and hasn't > seen an upload to unstable for years. That still would not give them > reason to do what they did. In fact, I have always taken my > responsibilities seriously. There are good reasons there was no > upload. If they had bothered to check the upstream bug tracker or the > upstream branch at > https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git they would > have surely realized I followed upstream closely. It was simply that I > was never satisfied with any of the upstream releases. I have been in > contact with upstream about this via bug tracker and e-mail (many of > which bounced, so progress has been slow). Even the latest upstream > release 3.0.2 does not work for me and thus I would not upload it to > unstable. Agreed, gjots2 is not in good shape but it's not because of a > lack of effort from the Debian Maintainer. > > Lucas and Atheros hijacked my package and then failed to clean up after > the mess they made despite being asked to do so. > > Regards > > Rolf > Facts from https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gjots2 [2018-04-15] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-4 (source all) into unstable (Rolf Leggewie) [2018-03-24] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-3 (source all) into unstable (Athos Ribeiro) (signed by: Lucas Kanashiro) [2017-10-24] gjots2 REMOVED from testing (Debian testing watch) [2014-03-04] gjots2 2.4.1-2 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch) [2014-02-22] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-2 (source all) (Rolf Leggewie) [2013-11-23] gjots2 2.4.1-1 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch) [2013-11-12] Accepted gjots2 2.4.1-1 (source all) (Rolf Leggewie) [2013-10-27] gjots2 2.3.15-4 MIGRATED to testing (Debian testing watch) [2013-10-16] Accepted gjots2 2.3.15-4 (source all) (Rolf Leggewie) Facts from https://tracker.debian.org/news/942483/accepted-gjots2-241-3-source-all-into-unstable/ gjots2 (2.4.1-3) unstable; urgency=medium . * Remove python-gtksourceview2 and mpage from Recommends. Closes: #876571 * Declare compliance with Debian policy 4.1.3. * Bump debhelper compatibility level to 11. * Add myself as co-maintainer. * Update VCS URLs to point to salsa. Facts from https://tracker.debian.org/news/949699/accepted-gjots2-241-4-source-all-into-unstable/ gjots2 (2.4.1-4) unstable; urgency=medium . * revert the package hijack in 2.4.1-3 by Athos Ribeiro <athoscribe...@gmail.com> Lucas Kanashiro <kanash...@debian.org> who couldn't even be bothered to clean up after their mess * move VCS URIs to point to github * update my copyright to 2018 So we have all the ingredients for a fight: * several people * something that is important to all of them * different views on it And that dispute is now on d-devel@l.d.o. ... What I would like to see: * the involved people express that gjots2 is important to them * the involved people talk (email) with each other * discussion on common goals * some minor acknowledge on this fight, something like "hmm, yes that wasn't productive" And thing that I real would like to see * VCS URI to Salsa, the logical succesor of https://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/gjots2.git Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven
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