Thomas Goirand: > On 6/10/19 8:46 AM, Niels Thykier wrote: >> However, at no point in this, can I understand how highlighting disdain >> for certain people (or what their "title") would help with anything in >> this endeavour (or any other cause for that matter). From my PoV, it >> just seems needlessly unprofessional and hostile towards others - plus >> now we get to spent time dissecting that rather than focusing on what >> you wanted to change. > > In general, IMO we're on a trend of too much policing. This sub-thread > is a good example of what I'd like not to happen. > > Adam explained why he hated the "UX designers", explaining what he > disliked in their creations. I don't think the goal was to be "hostile > towards others" but rather "hostile towards a style of design". > Therefore, I'm very much fine with what he wrote. > > Please get past the words he used to get his real meaning: I found the > way he expressed it very powerful. It made me understand why I so much > hate the Material design trend, which I didn't get until I read these lines. > > Cheers, > > Thomas Goirand (zigo) >
If the initial mail had focused on "Material design" as its object of concern rather than "UX designers" then: * It would still have help you understand your concerns about Material design. - I note that your hate is about Material design and not UX people. This distinction makes a huge difference for me. * It would not have alienated every UX designer in the world including those that use other principles than "Material design". * It would have reduced or avoided this sub-thread, which would have lead to considerable better focus of our energies and less wasted time discussing its content. - While I do not personally understand the need for using "I hate X", the use of "I also hate with a passion Material design" in itself would not have triggered a mail from me. If we do not agree on the above, then consider this a "agree to disagree" remark from me (to save a round trip costing time from every subscriber on d-d). Thanks, ~Niels