Hi all, the Debian GNOME team has a goal of removing gtk+2.0 from Forky before the release of Debian 14 in 2027.
Debian is not the only distro doing this. A few months ago, Arch Linux removed GTK 2 from its official (non-AUR) repositories [1]. RHEL 10 was released earlier in 2025 without GTK 2. gtk3 was released 15 years ago. Debian has had the stable 3.24 series [2] for more than 7 years. Most affected packages [3] had bugs filed against them for this issue in 2020. Some exceptions include packages that gained a gtk2 dependency after that date or packages that weren't in Testing then (like openjdk- 8) or for input methods and themes. The list of currently affected packages is less than 25% as long as the list was in 2020. One blocker towards finishing this transition is that the graphical Debian Installer still uses gtk2. As mentioned in our 2020 MBF [4], besides being unmaintained for years, GTK 2 does not support either HiDPI or native Wayland. On behalf of the Debian GNOME team, Matthias Geiger <werdahias> PS: not subscribed to -devel, so please CC me for replies References ---------- [1] https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/[email protected]/thread/2BDHYLEFSYQBDTMUOZT5J6AFTA5M3FO6/ [2] https://blog.gtk.org/2018/06/23/a-gtk-3-update/ [3] https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?user=pkg-gnome-maintainers%40lists.alioth.debian.org&tag=gtk2 [4] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2020/04/msg00405.html dd-list ------- afterstep amsynth asunder basilisk2 bfm breeze-gtk c-evo-dh c-munipack calf castle-game-engine castle-model-viewer cdebconf cdebconf-entropy cdebconf-terminal chemtool cqrlog crossfire-client ddccontrol dnssec-trigger doublecmd easychem etw euler fcitx fcitx5-gtk fp-units-win fpc gbdfed gbgoffice gcin gdpc geg gerbv gexec ghostess gimp-plugin-registry gkrellkam gkrellm gkrellm-leds gkrellm-mailwatch gkrellm-radio gkrellm-reminder gkrellm-thinkbat gkrellm-tz gkrellm-volume gkrellm-xkb gkrellm2-cpufreq gkrellmoon gkrellmwireless gkrellshoot gkrelltop gkrelluim gkrellweather gmpc gmpc-plugins gnome-paint gnome-themes-extra gopchop gr-framework grig groundhog growl-for-linux grpn gtk-im-libthai gtk2-engines gtkmm2.4 gtkspell guifications gwaterfall gwyddion gxneur hdate-applet hexchat hime hspell-gui ibus ir.lv2 jack-keyboard java-packagekcemu kluppe
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