Simon Josefsson dijo [Sat, Feb 21, 2026 at 08:13:07PM +0100]:
I guess it all boils down to Debian people not wanting you to badmouth the
Debian project using Debian resources for it.
Please help me improve motivation for Debian Libre so it doesn't come
off as badmouthing. That's not the intention, and to me, the choice of
basing Debian Libre on Debian speaks a lot about the good things in
Debian. It would be more work to base a libre OS on macOS or Windows.
What Debian resources are you thinking about?
If you are proposing a Debian Pure Blend called “Debian Libre”, it would be
using ① Debian's trademark and ② Debian's infrastructure. It would badmouth
the project by implying that full-Debian, that what our project does that
is _not_ accepted by “Debian Libre” is, well... Not free.
So, go ahead! Scratch your itch! Just don't paint our project as not
caring. Because it is not true.
Which statements paint that picture to you? I see a great deal of
caring about this issue, otherwise there wouldn't have been a GR about
this in the first place.
Our project's priorities are its users and free software. And given our
users _will_ predominantly use hardware that won't even boot without
non-free software, and that will expose huge vulnerabilities if not
patched, and that the majority of our users is not as technically apt as
you are, it would be a disservice to make them feel confident in running
only free, auditable, reproducible software when, in fact, they are not.
The balance is difficult, yes, and it has changed over the years. And it
might change again in the future. We might have to revise our standing some
years from now. But I do not want a Debian Developer (whom I trust and
whose technical capabilities I admire!) to take 99.5% of Debian and rebrand
it as “Debian Libre”, basically announcing to all of our users that we are
working towards a mediocre goal.
