On Thu, 2026-08-13 at 15:09 +0200, Bastien Roucaries wrote:
> Le jeudi 13 août 2026, 13:00:41 heure d’été d’Europe centrale John Paul 
> Adrian Glaubitz a écrit :
> > Hi Bastien,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2026-08-13 at 12:53 +0200, Bastien Roucaries wrote:
> > > In order to ease the user/devel experience I want for isa-support to 
> > > create test for forky baseline
> 
> I forget to add my goal, the goal is to create a forky package 
> forky-isa-support and backport it as last PU before release.
> 
> Therefore user could do apt install forky-isa-support and it will fail if 
> upgrade is not supported.
> 
> Better user experience

OK, but that still means breaking existing usecases.

> > > 
> > > For now I test for armhf:
> > > 
> > > armv8-support
> > >     CPU feature checking - require ARMv8
> > > 
> > > neon-support
> > 
> > Not sure I understand this. You want to raise armhf to ARMv8? Why would
> > anyone then install a 32-bit port when they could just use the 64-bit
> > port in the first place?
> 
> Some packages need it, I agree with you about arm7 it is only for 
> completeness.
> If you want to raise baseline ask for more test

The decisions to determine the baseline should not be aligned whether some
packages need it or not but whether the final product will be usable by
end users.

Please don't look at the build results on the buildds. We're not building
a distribution for the sake of building one but for delivering a product
that people will use.

> > 
> > > For armhf/arm64 (will like to know if it exist supported cpu without crc)
> > > 
> > > armv8crc-support
> > >     CPU feature checking - require ARMv8CRC
> > 
> > What's the advantage of requiring ARMv8CRC?
> 
> Some package need it to me best knownelge for arm64 except one card every cpu 
> has crc.

That's not an argument. If I have an ARMv8-capable machine, I'm not going
to install Debian's armhf port. That makes no sense.

> > 
> > > For amd64/i386 (i will like to only use psABI defintion so 
> > > 
> > > sse3-support
> > >     vérification de caractéristique de CPU – besoin de SSE3
> > > sse4.1-support
> > >     CPU feature checking - require SSE4.1
> > > sse4.2-support
> > >     SSE4.2
> > > x86-64-v2-support
> > >     CPU feature checking - require x86-64-v2
> > > x86-64-v3-support
> > >     CPU feature checking - require x86-64-v3
> > 
> > Isn't that something that should be done using hwcaps support?
> 
> Yes but some upstream are require sse3

See above, not an argument.

> > > for ppc/ppc64
> > > 
> > > altivec-support
> > 
> > POWER8 already has AltiVec.
> 
> So I could drop for ppc ?

Not sure what you mean with "ppc" here. Please be more precise.

We have:

- powerpc
- ppc64
- ppc64el

> 
Adrian

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