>>>>> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> Do we have some special permission to redistribute Java? John> From my reading of the license, we are not allowed to give John> it out to anybody else: John> 1. Limited License Grant. Sun grants to you ("Licensee") a John> non-exclusive, non-transferable limited license to use the John> Software without fee for evaluation of the Software and for John> development of Java(tm) compatible applets and John> applications. Licensee may make one archival copy of the John> Software and may re-distribute complete, unmodified copies John> of the Software to software developers within Licensee's John> organization to avoid unnecessary download time, provided John> that this License conspicuously appear with all copies of John> the Software. Except for the foregoing, Licensee may not John> re-distribute the Software in whole or in part, either John> separately or included with a product. Refer to the Java John> Runtime Environment Version 1.1.6 binary code license John> (http://java.sun.com/products/JDK/1.1/index.html) for the John> availability of runtime code which may be distributed with John> Java compatible applets and applications. Hmm, interesting question. The non-commercial source licence does allow binary redistribution of a port, but I've never considered whether that required Debian (which legally doesn't exist) to become a licencee or whether it's sufficient for me to be a licencee. If you want to check the non-commercial source licence, it's at <URL:ftp://ftp.java.sun.com/docs/licensing.source_license.ps>. The relevant section appears below: 1.2 Sun grants to Licensee the royalty-free right to distribute binary code developed and compiled from the Licensed Software in accordance with Subsection 1.1 above ("Derived Binaries"), provided that: (i) Derived Binaries are not integrated, bundled, combined or associated in any way with a product, (ii) there is no charge associated with such distribution, (iii) Derived Binaries are fully compatible with the then-current version of the publicly available test suite supplied by Sun which verifies Java compatibility ("JavaTest Suite") and must remain compatible with subsequent versions of the JavaTest Suites and upgraded Licensed Software, and (iv) Derived Binaries are distributed subject to a license agreement containing terms and conditions at least as protective of Sun as those included in the binary code license used by Sun for internet distribution of the Java binaries. In the event that Licensee desires that such distribution be fee-based, or be associated with a product, Licensee must execute a commercial license agreement with Sun. Forwarded to debian-devel to start YALFW (yet another licensing flame-war :)) -- Stephen --- Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least 20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a "20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month" group. :) -- Randal Schwartz