On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 10:49:09AM -0400, Phillip R. Jaenke wrote:
> That's MY opinion. Not necessarily yours. I can't get a system without
> RedHat preinstalled from VA Research last I checked, they never returned
> my calls, so as far as I'm concerned, they're about as good a company as
> Compaq or Microsoft. They're more concerned about PR via donations, and
> making money, than they are about customer service.
>From what I've seen of some VA people on the lists, they're quite helpful
(eg Chris Dibona - is there a mailing list he ISN'T on?).  VA isn't a perfect
company, but they're far from evil...they're still growing, from what I've heard
they've like quadrupled the amount of employees, and are having some growing 
pains...

As for preinstallation, let me make two points:
a) Debian really has a long way to go for someone to do mass installs of it, 
unattended.
b) Even if they DID ship debian preinstalled, how long would you keep it on the 
machine?
   Especially since you have remarked that part of your job is security 
auditing?  For me,
   it would probably be about one boot away from being fdisk'd and reinstalled 
- one
   reason to do it would be to set up the partitions the way I want.

Also consider this, linux.com is a 100%-debian drive site - from the 
impressions I've
gotten, the VA people are really big on Debian, but for the reasons above 
aren't doing
preinstalls of it.  Don't be so quick to judge things.

-- 
Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>          
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Put simply, Debian is to RedHat what Linux is to Windows. 

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