Just answering to main hints, I have not time in this moment for details.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 09:35:57AM +0100, Javier Fern�ndez-Sanguino Pe�a wrote: > On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 12:21:58AM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > > After discussion with Pierre Machard aka migus on IRC, I created a new > > project 'ddp' on alioth in order to restore by trusted snapshots > > the no more available documentation repository. > > Have you talked with Adam or Joy about this? Last time I looked _they_ were > the ones that should take this decission. > They are both PMs for the project currently. They are probably too busy with other tasks currently to deal with the restoration of DDP. I saw multiple queries about the status of the rep on IRC, this list and other ones. That's just a way to have things moving on. > > The plan is that describe in > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-doc/2003/debian-doc-200312/msg00017.html > > That plan has not been approved by all DDP members. > Is there any formal way for having that approvation? Creating the repository is just a starting point not the final goal, anyway. BTW, I saw no objections to the plan in the last couple of months: that message is dated 12/9 and there is very few activity in this list since the intrusion days. Maybe, nobody cares enough. > > > > In the meantime me and mingus will check archive contents. Helpers > > are welcome. > > I already asked for this and it should have been done _before_ moving the > DDP project for Alioth. I could only check the latest HEAD branch against > several HEAD copies (mine included) and all changes looked ok to me, but > was not able to review all the history for the scripts. > I cannot see a better solution to have something working again. > If you check the contents of utils/ (which I haven't) and manuals.sgml > scripts history then we could contact debian-admin to reenable the CVSROOT > at gluck:/home/oldgluck/org/cvs.debian.org/cvs/debian-doc. > I have both them in my checkouts. > > > I also added some obviuos users to the project, such as joy and aph. > > If a trustable committers list can be provided to us, it would be fine. > > That would be all the list of 'users' in the old CVSRoot. You could also > gather one based on the history of changes of all the documents. BTW, have > you contacted the translation teams at all? > Not yet. > If you were interested in restoring the DDP service it should have been > restored _first_ on gluck, after all the contents have been verified, once > done, it could have been moved to alioth, but after contacting all the > parties. This "now it's done" approach, is not the way to do it. > I know. Again, theory and practice are different things. I'm just seeing that things are stopped since a couple of months. If someone could help, why not? > Do you have a clear plan on how to have gluck regenerate all the > documentation in HTML format based on the Alioth sources? Have > you discussed this with [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Not yet. But it's technically possible. > Also notice that for some users of the DDP, including myself, the history > is as important as the documents themselves. Please preserve it too. > > Note that I'm not particuarly against moving the DDP to Alioth, it's just > that I don't believe it is a decission to be taken lightly, and should be > clear on all fronts, that's why I'm hinting to some of the steps you > have missed. Granted, they should all have been done by now by other > DDP members (it's almost february) but fixing RC bugs has been a higher > priority (for me at least). > -- Francesco P. Lovergine

