Package: dpkg-dev,debhelper Followup-For: Bug #942111 Control: reopen 942111
Dear Maintainer, Sorry for being late to the party. Please reconsider the XDG_RUNTIME_DIR part of this change. XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is a systemd-ism, and due to the way it is specified, it's extremely unlikely to be implemented in other init systems. It also poses problems for tools like su/sudo. In particular, this part: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html | The lifetime of the directory MUST be bound to the user being logged in. | It MUST be created when the user first logs in and if the user fully | logs out the directory MUST be removed. If the user logs in more than | once he should get pointed to the same directory, and it is mandatory | that the directory continues to exist from his first login to his last | logout on the system, and not removed in between. Files in the directory | MUST not survive reboot or a full logout/login cycle. is an insurmountable obstacle unless one (re-)implements systemd's idea of login tracking. The only other conforming behaviour is unexporting XDG_RUNTIME_DIR. Hence, any tool (outside systemd and related packages) relying on XDG_RUNTIME_DIR being set is buggy. I don't think catering to these bugs is a good idea. Personally, I think it's a shame XDG_RUNTIME_DIR has been defined this way; if creating at boot/login and deleting at shutdown was a permissible implementation, it could be cross-init, and thus actually useful. Water under the bridge now tho. Thank you for maintaining debhelper. regards, Jan -- System Information: Debian Release: bullseye/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (650, 'testing-debug'), (550, 'unstable-debug'), (550, 'unstable'), (10, 'experimental-debug'), (10, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 5.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=C.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=C.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)
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