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Subject: dpkg: Should warn when 3rd-party file effects (un)installation
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Package: dpkg
Version: 1.10.2
Severity: wishlist

When dpkg encounters a package's installed file that has been modified
by the user, it doesn't by default replace it with a new version.
Instead, it just leaves the file there and skips the new version's
file.

This is a prime source of system-breakage.  For instance, I've had X
become broken twice in the last year when dpkg didn't replace an old
.so driver file for my video card on upgrade, and have had it happen
in other cases as well.

While I think it's a good thing for dpkg to be conservative and keep
the 3rd-party file, I think that we could solve the system-breakage
problem by giving a warning during dpkg's install/uninstall process
when a 3rd-party file is not removed/replaced.  If I had seen such a
warning during my last upgrades, I would have been saved from a lot of
ugly debugging.

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On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Michael Toomim wrote:

> When dpkg encounters a package's installed file that has been modified
> by the user, it doesn't by default replace it with a new version.
> Instead, it just leaves the file there and skips the new version's
> file.

Er, only conffiles get such treatment.

> This is a prime source of system-breakage.  For instance, I've had X
> become broken twice in the last year when dpkg didn't replace an old
> .so driver file for my video card on upgrade, and have had it happen
> in other cases as well.

A .so is a binary file.  And .sos reside in /usr.  This file is not a
conffile.  So, the file will be overwritten.

> While I think it's a good thing for dpkg to be conservative and keep
> the 3rd-party file, I think that we could solve the system-breakage
> problem by giving a warning during dpkg's install/uninstall process
> when a 3rd-party file is not removed/replaced.  If I had seen such a
> warning during my last upgrades, I would have been saved from a lot of
> ugly debugging.

There was no warning to give, so no warning was printed.

If you have something wrong, then say so.  Hand waving will be dismissed as
such.


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