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Package: dpkg
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please either add notes about what -S wont find to the manpage [in the
-S paragraph], or fix dpkg...


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Oops.  Typo again. 

Maybe I should force myself spell checking before sending.  Any good
idea for MUTT?  I keep forgetting typing "i" before "y".  Maybe MACRO?

On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 11:02:56PM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 07:54:14AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> > Noting that the look command lacks the word herbicide, I will be a
> > good Samaritan and inform somebody, or so i thought: 
> > I do
> > $ man look
> >      "If file is not specified, the file /usr/share/dict/words is used..."
> > $ dpkg -S /usr/share/dict/words
> > dpkg: /usr/share/dict/words not found.
> > Oh, I see it is a symlink.  Odd, the dpkg man page doesn't mention -S
> > doesn't know about symlinks.  Must be a bug, no?
> 
> This is my frastration with current debian system.
s/frastration/frustration/
> 
> "dpkg -S" only shows files in package but files created by install
> scripts are not shown because it is not in package.  "symlinks are
> created by postinstall scripts for sure.
> 
> 
> This is not a bug in narrow sense but usability bug.  Thus you can file
> ths as wishlist, I think...
s/ths/this/
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<quote who="Dan Jacobson">
> Fellas, just where does my inexperience reach a crescendo, and just where
> does Debian "owe me something"?:
>
> Noting that the look command lacks the word herbicide, I will be a good
> Samaritan and inform somebody, or so i thought:
> I do
> $ man look
>     "If file is not specified, the file /usr/share/dict/words is used..."
> $ dpkg -S /usr/share/dict/words
> dpkg: /usr/share/dict/words not found.
> Oh, I see it is a symlink.  Odd, the dpkg man page doesn't mention -S
> doesn't know about symlinks.  Must be a bug, no?
>
> OK, apt-cache search mentions various clues, but I do an dpkg -L
> ispell and dont see /usr/share/dict/words there either.

i am guessing here, but it would make sense if the symlinks
were created during one of the various scripts that are executing
during package installation, it would make the linking more flexible,
if this is the case, that means the symlink is not part of the package
list of files, so it would not show up on dpkg -S .

i think it would be a bad idea if dpkg -S followed symlinks and
reported their targets as being part of the package if the link
pointed to such a file. then anyone could create a buncha symlinks
and point them to files and the system would think those symlinks
are part of that package when they are not.

it's not as convient, but i can't really think of a better way
then to manually follow the symlink and check the file it
points to.

and many links are updated on the fly like those in
'update-alternatives'. last thing i would want is dpkg -S telling
me one thing belongs to one package when it infact may belong
to a different package.

nate

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Subject: Bug#153096: fixed in dpkg 1.10.11
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Source-Version: 1.10.11

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
dpkg, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

dpkg-dev_1.10.11_all.deb
  to pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg-dev_1.10.11_all.deb
dpkg-doc_1.10.11_all.deb
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dpkg_1.10.11.tar.gz
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dpkg_1.10.11_i386.deb
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dselect_1.10.11_i386.deb
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:52:11 -0500
Source: dpkg
Binary: dpkg-doc dpkg dselect dpkg-dev dpkg-static
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Version: 1.10.11
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Maintainer: Dpkg Development <[email protected]>
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Description: 
 dpkg       - Package maintenance system for Debian
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 dpkg-doc   - Dpkg Internals Documentation
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   * dpkg no longer provides any BYHAND files.  If you need the source
     tarball, use the orig.tar.gz file available in the pool.  The
     precompiled tars were hold-overs from when debs were not standard
     ar/tar files.
   * Install /usr/share/doc/dpkg/pseudo-tags, which talks about the bug
     titling we use to mark bugs for filtering in the Debian bts.
   * Updated ca.po.
   * Teach dpkg-source that ~ is legal in version numbers
   * Add build-depends on sgml-base, and increase gettext build-depends to
     0.12.1-3.
   * Updated config.sub and config.guess in cvs.
   * Change use of strncpy in parsedb to memcpy.  Closes: #160447
   * No longer generate helpmsgs.{cc,h}.
   * several controllib changes:
     * Moved dependency parsing logic from dpkg-checkbuilddeps.
       The dpkg-checkbuilddeps parser didn't support empty fields, while
       the controllib parser did.
     * All dependency fields parsed by controllib.pl support [arch]
       specifiers.  If the arch specifier doesn't apply for the current
       arch, then the item will not be added to the internal list structure.
     * Comment lines(that begin with '#') are removed during parsing.
     * Store the original casing of field names, for use in error reporting.
     * Store the original field's casing with 'o:' prepended in %fi.
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         dpkg-checkbuilddeps now handles empty fields.  Closes: #111562
       * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
         support comments(first char on line begins with '#') in
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       * Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
         Allow for per-arch generated dependency fields.  Closes: #170575
       * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
         Report the original casing of field names when they are unknown.
         Closes: #177753
   * Patch dpkg-buildpackage to call debian/rules -qn build-arch, and if
     it's available, modify -B handling appropriately.  If build-arch is not
     available, then when -B was called, do *not* pass -B on to
     dpkg-checkbuilddeps.  Closes: #203097
   * Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Apply patch, to handle missing infodir.bak, and empty files.  Closes:
     #196361
   * Change standard_startup and standard_shutdown into macros.  Closes:
     #200351.
   * Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix inverted test of eof in parsedb, while looking for eof after
     field name.  Closes: #198218
   * Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
     Add set -e to dpkg-doc.postinst.  Closes: #191261
   * Michael Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     dpkg --print-architecture now does gcc -dumpmachine instead of
     --print-libgcc-file-name.  Closes: #131893, #8241, #106793, #210285
   * Daniel Silverstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Apply patch to change hashing function, and increase bin size, for
     the package database.  Closes: #206416
   * Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Apply patch to make dpkg work with POSIX 1003.1-2001.  Closes:
     #204894
   * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix "stripping trailing /" message from dpkg-statoverride.  Closes:
     #203782
   * Sami Liedes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Increase filesdb bin size, and alter hashing function.  Closes:
     #179385
   * Anthony Towns <[email protected]>:
     Retry removing empty dirs during purge.  Closes: #112386
   * Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Add .cvsignore to dpkg-source's default diff ignore regex.  Also fix
     missing \ escape for .deps.  Closes: #174013
   * Koblinger Egmont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix segfault with --status-fd.  Closes: #173618
   * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
     Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Add .svn, {arch}, and .arch-ids to dpkg-source -i default regex.
     Closes: #169359
   * Falk Hueffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Added alphaev68-linux-gnu to archtable.  Closes: #199360
   * Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Apply patch to support OpenBSD.  Closes: #154277
   * Geoff Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Add --config to action section, and add as EXAMPLES section.  Closes:
     #208014, #115759
   * Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     install-info --version and --help now display on stdout.  Closes:
     #154633
   * Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Mention what dpkg and dpkg-query -S will not find.  Closes: #153096
   * Sebastian Leske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Mention in dpkg(8) that downgrading a package can have serious
     consequences.  Closes: #61156
   * Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     In dpkg-scanpackages(8), including small note that other tools might
     use the generated Packages file.  Closes: #208894
   * Warren Turkal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix some typos in dpkg-source(1).  Closes: #207259, #204123, #167426
   * Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Alter text in dselect(8), implying that other interfaces are available
     for installing packages.  Closes: #206164.
   * Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Note in start-stop-daemon(8) that --nicelevel takes an argument.
   * Ruben Porras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Remove duplicate 'can' in deb-control(5).  Closes: #183840
   * Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix short description in dpkg-scansources(8).  Closes: #175770
   * Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     In dpkg(8), move dpkg-query options to their own subsection, like
     dpkg-deb.  Closes: #174971
   * Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
     Add --dry-run and --simulate as synonyms to --no-act.  Closes:
     #165099
   * Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix wrong reference to DEB_BUILD_GNU_SYSTEM on --host in
     dpkg-architecture(1).  Closes: #163621
   * Michael Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     s/Usuaully/Usually/ in deb-control.5.  Closes: #161819
   * Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Removed reference in dselect(8) about recommends not being handled
     well.  Closes: #157973
   * Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     s/dpkg-source/dpkg-parsechangelog/ in dpkg-parsechangelog -h.
     Closes: #155822
   * Matej Vela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Unhighlight "May be repeated multiple times." in dpkg-source(1).
     Closes: #151845
   * Jordi Mallach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Make all actions in dpkg-deb -h lower case.  Closes: #150642
   * Alexander Hvostov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Add -g|--group to start-stop-daemon, and document properly.  Closes:
     #127342
   * Szerb Tamas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     s/THANKS/THANKS.gz/ in dpkg(8).  Closes: #91348
   * "James R. Van Zandt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     In dpkg(8), mention running dselect, install after --set-selections.
     Closes: #175236
   * Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Remove disabled --command-fd from help.  Closes: #169619
   * Tobias Burnus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Apply patch to update-alternatives that provides --set and --remove-all
     commands.  Closes: #133745.
   * Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Add --all to update-alternatives, that calls --config on all
     alternatives.  Closes: #126621
   * Dan Jacobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Alter --config prompt, to be more clear, that one must 'press' enter to
     accept the default.  Closes: #203557
   * Peter Moulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Fix some -w issues in update-alternatives.  Closes: #137313
   * Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     Apply patch to check whether the target path exists on removing.
     Closes: #37254
   * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
     After opening files, set binmode.  Closes: #175363
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