Hello Neil, Greetings!
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For your laptop: Debian Lenny AMD64. > > Change your /etc/apt/sources.list to refer to either 'lenny' or > 'testing' and then do the normal 'apt-get update', 'apt-get > dist-upgrade' or use aptitude in the same manner. You can upgrade to sid > as well if you want to but sid is the name for Debian unstable and it > will get fairly unstable immediately after a release. Ok. > OK, from your original message, it sounded as if you wanted Emdebian on > a machine already running Debian Etch. How much flash storage space are > you going to give the new system? What is your target installation size? Maybe up to 512MB of flash storage space. > Is there a reason why you are using an amd64 chip rather than an i386 or > ARM? - the amd64 will be quite power hungry so it sounds as if you are > building a small system that is expecting to do a lot of computational > work. How much RAM will you be giving the new system? It doesn't sound > particularly portable and you may need a noisy fan. (Unless there is a > low power amd64 chip I didn't know about). Given that, I'm still not > sure why you've chosen to create this system. Understanding what the > system is designed to do is the key to helping you with the flavour of > the OS. I am not entirely planning to target a real embedded appliance. I just want to have a stripped down Debian (hopefully Etch because it's the stable branch) especially without the docs, etc. and a read-only filesystem. The target machine that I am planning is a standard AMD64 box, either a clone PC or a branded one. > Hmmm, not sure you need to do it that way around. You can keep the > laptop running a full Debian install and then use a chroot to test the > new system. emdebian-tools includes tools to create suitable chroots and > to build packages within them. However, unless you are thinking of > giving this board less than 500Mb of flash storage space, I'm not sure > you need to build any packages. Yes, I found the emdebian-tools at the Unstable branch but I also found one at the EmDebian site. I am confused which one to use and what is really the right way to do what I want to accomplish. > I think you are doing a similar kind of task to the Debian Eee PC port > (which includes the Acer Aspire1) in that you want Debian with xfce and > a few custom tweaks to fit the system into 2Gb or so. You don't need > Emdebian to do that. I don't have any idea about the Debian EeePC port. As much as possible, I just want to have a normal/standard Debian Etch AMD64 install on my target system minus the docs, etc. and make it a read-only filesystem. It's not really an embedded appliance. > If you do not want a graphic interface on the new system, you can do > without X and xfce etc. so you could still use Debian. Depending on > which packages you need, you would need anything from 300Mb to 1Gb for > this. I don't need X at all. > If you want a graphic interface but still want an installed size about > 800Mb to 1Gb, you will be looking at Emdebian Grip which is in > consideration at this time and has a little bit of scripting support but > no testing. (No figures exist for just how small Emdebian Grip will be.) Any URL for Grip? I want to read their documentations. > If you want a graphic interface in less than 100Mb of flash, you need to > rebuild all the current Emdebian ARM packages for amd64 using > emdebian-tools (native build), create a local test mirror and build a > root filesystem using emsandbox. This is the current Emdebian package > set - as used for the Balloon3 board and currently only built for ARM. > > http://www.emdebian.org/emdebian/flavours.html Ok. Thank you. > Methodology - The Emdebian 'composite' method supports folding all our > changes directly into Debian and only using patches for the interim > period. We also keep in sync with Debian across each distribution and > rely on Debian support for the cross-dependency packages. This way, it > is easier to provide updated packages with bug fixes from Debian. > > Slind modified Debian packages and ran them as forks. Ok. Thank you very much for giving your time to answer my questions. Regards, GNUbie -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
