On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jean-Christian de Rivaz <j...@eclis.ch> wrote:
> Le 16. 11. 14 19:52, Robert a écrit : > >> This was recently posted on #systemd-devel: >> >> "To make this clear, we expect that systemd and kernels are updated in >> lockstep. We explicitly do not support really old kernels with really >> new systemd. So far we had the focus to support up to 2y old kernels >> (which means 3.4 right now), but even that should be taken with a grain >> of salt, as we already made clear that soon after kdbus is merged into >> the kernel we'll probably make a hard requirement on it from the systemd >> side." >> >> This is a very onerous requirement in the embedded world. There are many >> embedded platforms sold today that only have 2.6.X BSPs. While I agree >> that the BSP from vendors should be better (and it is getting better >> thanks to devicetree), it seems that we are doomed to run ancient >> userspace to match our ancient kernels. >> > If you take the risk to rely exclusively on a vendor BSP, take your > responsibility and don't blame others for your poor choice. +1 > Most today SoC vendors understand that there must upload there patches to > mainline kernel and do it routinely. This means that while some vendors > still offer BSP (because there have clients asking for it), last mainline > kernel run as well just fine on there SoC. > >> This change will probably hit me the hardest and for me it really cuts >> into what linux means. It used to be that I could run the same userspace >> on my tiny embedded device, my desktop or on the server --- the only >> difference being the kernel. >> > Why did you not try to run the last mainline kernel for your SoC instead > of an outdated BSP ? This will immediately solve your problem. > >> It seems like the only solution here is to abandon debian and fall back >> to OpenEmbedded or buildroot. >> > > Fell free to try it all. I have do that since many years and found that > the Jessie armhf port is actually vastly superior to anything out there. > I have to add that this has been my experience as well. Cheers, Jeremiah
