On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:49:31PM +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote: > On 10/28/2009 07:35 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 01:38:04PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >>> If I'm not the only one feeling that way, I think we can try to make a > >>> more reasonable proposal to the FOSDEM organizer: having the devroom > >>> *and* the cross-distro meeting room. That can be coped with a simple > >>> room: if you want a devroom for your own, you should participate in the > >>> cross-distro room *as* *well* filling a number X of slots. > >> > >> Given the above, and given that this would involve one "shared" devroom > >> *plus* a single devroom for each and every distribution, I can't agree > >> that this is "a more reasonable proposal". > > Indeed :) > > > OK, by reading your detailed explanation I now imagine that the room > > shortage is so severe that they cannot afford more than one devroom for > > all participating distros. If that is the case, obviously this is the > > only viable solution. I was imagining / hoping that a less consistent > > reduction in distro-related devrooms was enough, according to that I was > > seeing my proposal as "more reasonable" in the sense that it required > > less room, but still not as few as one single room. > > > > If there is room for one more room (pun not intended), I believe that > > all distros would benefit from having a time-share of the extra room to > > be handled with a distro-specific schedule. If there is not, obviously > > we will cope with that. > > We could imagine something like that but one room to time-share just > wouldn't be enough. If Debian would like to have that, then there is no > reason we would deny it to the others. And if we have openSUSE, Fedora, > CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu (pending), Arch (pending), Gentoo, Exherbo and > Mandriva at FOSDEM 2010, that's 7 to 9 distro projects. Cannot possibly > time-share a single room on 2 days amongst that many participants.
There's no need for that. I do think that there should be space for distribution-specific talks that are really of interest to people of that distribution alone. But this can be organized in the same way as the other distribution talks; that way, if no distribution-specific talks are submitted from one distribution, then you don't have the problem that you've got alotted time for them which nobody claimed. > We could already have more specialized topics as we will use 2, 3 or 4 > rooms (4 currently being the upper limit IMO, although I'd much prefer > using 3 rooms max for the distro projects), such as a half-day track on > packaging, with one room being about RPM/zypp/yum/smart/..., the 2nd > room around dpkg/apt. > Also, there is absolutely no problem with proposing and holding sessions > about things that are specific to Debian. The difference is that it > should be geared more towards showcasing it to other distributions, > outlining the pros and cons, discussing with others how they (solve > those problems|accomplish those features), etc... I don't think that's necessarily true. Yes, speakers should assume that not just people from their pet distribution will be attending. However, FOSDEM is supposed to be technical -- it should be fair game if speakers assume pre-existing knowledge about their subject, whether this is a programming language or a distribution. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected]
