> It boils down to this: > > 1. Linking a kernel module can be done in userspace. > 2. Root can write to kernel memory. > > Thus, root can install a kernel module without the kernel module loader, > if that is desired. > > Not as easy, of course, but still possible. > > daniel > > ..so basically, this boils down to whether or not it is > possible to grab root with some kinda nenetcattunt. > >>Correct. As I remember you where running mail on port 25, it may be popossibleo kill the mailer and then hack on a closed port 25
It is iteresting to think how many machines are compromised at this point and the �owners��who is the real owner anyway? Don�t have any idea about it. How many undocumented secret exploits? Well this is material that has to be very well kept. (How many undeground �literally -internet wars at this time? I don�t know�) Windows machines are �big brothers- machines. They are full of backdoors and the bigbrothers can use those if needed (for them). I am sure of it. So computing nowdays is becoming a form of social control with the illusion of security due to antivirus software, firewalls etc� Of course there are also script-kiddies and others besides. The internet is changing very rapidly. Problem is that using computers (debian for me) requires a step learning curve. I am just an motivated user and hardly find the time to learn new things, etc. Hey if everybody has a computer with the ilusion of security maybe is better than a microchip on your forehead. Although that could also happen. Of course there is the option of closing all of the ports but that is not fun! -- -Jose Marrero. �Estos d�as azules y este sol de la infancia �(Antonio Machado-1939)
